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Date Posted: 04:54:44 12/05/02 Thu
Author: Maize
Subject: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ?

At a time , I thought intellectuals were people who because of genetic factors combined with optimal learning stimulating enviorment , were people who were smarter and because they had a superior intelligence they also had a deeper understanding of themselves and others and there fore were more moral , or compassionate toward fellow human beings .

Time has proven , I have thought wrong .Advanced intelligence does not correlate to deeper compassion or better treatment toward fellow humans . In fact I found that people with a higher intelligence seem to see them selves as superior beings than their peers with less intelligence .Instead of having deeper understandings for being who are less developed ( ignorant ) they seem to not have a tolerrace to the ones with smaller brains or impairments to the brain that make some of us seemingly , less intelligent .We the less intelligent , are treated like we are insignificate . As if the world would be a better place without us .

So I go back to history and see what I can draw from there .And time , and time again , the intellegent ones always used their superior brain powers to make us ignorant ones , the slaves .It never failed .Unless they did a cleansing and like the native americans ( indians) ethnic cleansing was the way to go .

The natives american knew the ones who came on boats had great wisdom . Like wisdom of God or gods . Surely such intelligence would also have compassion attached to it .So they trusted the intelligent ones.

But the intelligent ones seen them( natives ) as an obstacle for their new aged society.The natives americans brains seemed different.It wasn't a matter of outside stimuli ( education ) . Their brain developed through an evolutionary prossess that molded how their brain works to fit their survival needs .But this type of human had little place in the world of the Intellectuals from europe .Their brains couldn't be pushed to think like the intellectuals and they didn't make good slaves so they were slaughtered .

Were things different in Rome when it was one on the greatest empires in the world ?
No .The same thing happened. The intellectuals made slaves out of the less intelligent .

Even the Egyptians , who were so advanced that they left stuctures( pyrimids ) that couldn't be built as well today with all the technology we have as they were built thousands of years ago .

There are many other past civilizations of the intelligent ones.They all did the same thing .They treated the less intelligent ones like animals . If they had no productive pupose , they were slaughtered .

So why should the intelligent ones be trusted now .They seem to be self centered and think the wotld revolves around them . Not caring who they hurt to get what they want , even if it's just more knowlege . They'll stop at nothing for their quest for more knowlege , like a vampire looking for it's next victim to suck dry all it's blood .Seeing the less intelligent as useless and insignificate beings . Unless they find a way to suck enegry or a little knowlege out of their victims or find another use they can get from the ignorant ones .

So I no longer envy the intelligent ones . I feel they are dammed by their own beliefs of superiority .They are smart , but they lack a heart .And they are bullies and even though they speak of Peace and never lift a sword against another , their actions are violent. They hurt people .They have no care that they do , because life lives off of life. And we consumer life forms which we feel are not as develope as our selves .So being less intellegent the ignorant are being consumed and used in a way by the intellects.

It's like we see animals to be a lower life form , so we kill them and use their skin for shoes and walk all over them .Their life is so insignificant , that we expect and feel it's our right for their life to be sacrificed so our feet are a little more comfortable.
This same thinking extents to how the intellectuals treat the ignorants.

I want to thank all who have showed me the way things have always been.
I no longer will quest for knowlege.It is an Earthly thing for Earthly power . It is GREED . It is an attempt at controling others. What I once saw as, what I thought was an admirable trait in humans , now sickens me , for I see the pupose , and the pupose is to be self serving.Another division that seperates the ONENESS of all .

May the spirits of the unintelligent ones who have been abused , inslaved , slaughtered and conquered , rise up and their voices and cries of unjustice through the ages be heard so everyone will know the truth of what they'll done to us over and over and over throught time .

Our brains may be smaller.But we are alive and although our consciousness may seem insignificant , we feel,we have a semi- develope nevous system and we are aware of what others do to us .

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[> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- Maize, 05:02:15 12/05/02 Thu

As one intellect has taught me recently. We the ignorant have been put here for the amusement of the intelligent ones.Amusement.Like we are biological toys for the intelligent ones .Being used to get to their goal than discarded like trash. Or biological waste .

I guess that person out grew watching a hamster run on one of those exercise wheels .


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[> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- SpiritWind, 08:51:28 12/06/02 Fri

You make some very strong points. All of them I cannot argue with. In other words, I agree. Just because someone has a the intellegence, doesnt mean they have a heart. I have come to believe that the more intellegent ones are the people who possess compassion, understanding and love for all mankind. Those are the people I envy. Sure, they may not have the money or the material possessions, but they sure do have something more. Could there me a perfect medium? Its possible. I have yet to find it out here though. One who is intellegent yet holds the compassion and understanding. Seems those are a rare find. Thank you my dear for posting this. Once again you have amazed me with your thoughts.
Blessings,
SpiritWind


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[> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- Maize, 07:52:23 12/08/02 Sun


If anyone who reads here has taken offense from my passionate post , then they must personally believe themselves to be intelleigent .Anyone who believes they are intelligent , doesn't realize how much this is that they don't know , therefore they don't realize how ignorant they are .

One of the games in knowlege and intelligence is , the more you know , and the more intelligent you get ,the more you realize how little you know , and how ignorant you really are .At least , that's been my experience .

Dualalities of life . For every action , there is an equal and opposite reaction . And if i realize that I am more intelligent then one person , I will realize, I'm more ignorant then another person .

Why do I seem to have a hang up on this intelligence and ignorance thing ? It's because it has caught my attention lately .I'm seeing knowlege as an upside down pyramid ( without a bottom ) or a funnel . The more I know , the more I realize I don't know . And as I learn more and rise in knowlege , the space and gap gets wider as I go up the upside- down pyramid in knowlege . Making me see how much more I need to learn before I fully know ( fully become aware ).But as I learn more ,there becomes more that needs to be learned , and the more I learn the more I need to learn about what I just learned . It seems it will go on til eternity never reaching an end , never being Satisfied.
It's like trying to catch sun light in your hands.

Sometimes I like to just sit and be and imagine I don't know anything at all. No people , no words , no, songs , no chores , no ignorance , no intelligence . I imagine I have no wants , of people , of money , of possesions , of pleasure , of love ,of hate , of food of drink , of peace , of war .

And I feel this feeling of complete-ness and fulfillment and the enjoyment of just

{ BEING }


Then again , I just may be experiencing the feeling of being


{ IGNORANTLY BLISS }


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[> [> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- Dan., 10:37:01 03/27/03 Thu

Hello, I randomly found this message about the parodox of knowledge, where more knowledge = more ignorance. I like what you had to say, and agree. This whole idea is one reason I love a scripture in the bible which says that man's intelligence is folly in God's eyes... or something like that anyway.

I'd like to read more articles, how can I do that?
Dan.
www.seekingtruthnow.com


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[> [> [> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- Maize, 07:44:09 03/31/03 Mon

quote from Dan:

< Dan.>>

Dan, I don't know where you can find more articles like this one . This came out of my head one day. Actually I was on the angry side when I wrote it and I believe I offended some by it , which really wasn't my intention.

I have very little formal education.I didn't even finish high school. And I've resisted formal education since grade school and felt is was being forced on me. As soon as my body was strong enough where my parents couldn't force me to go to school , I dropped out. I am one of the ignorant ones.But for some reason thoughts just enter my head as they do everyone else , and I feel the need to share them.

Anything I write that resembles intelligence is not from me but from the creator.

As I wrote in a song once,

Who is the poet , the poet is not me .
I'm just the writer , the poet uses me .

If my ego comes off too strong , well , I already admit I'm one of the ignorant ones.

Hope you find what your searching for .

Maize


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[> Re: The Intellectuals , what threat do they pose ? -- Kosh Ulkesh, 18:52:34 03/30/03 Sun

Intellectuals don't really pose a threat - to me at least - though they do pose a threat to idiots, and, to be frank, most humans are baseline idiots. Anyone who thinks we are a majestic race, with lots of potential, well, obviously you have very, very low expectations and it doesn't take much to impress you. We are getting worse by the hour. It has been shown, without any doubt whatsoever, that as a group, the larger the group, the increasingly stupid and moronic the behaviour of that group becomes. So few people are able to even find any peace at all within themselves, so it comes as no surprise that as a whole we are entirely lacking in any form sentience. We have successfully polluted our world, along with any teachings that may bring about the teeniest form of enlightenment. Fear rules supreme, fear of what other people think, fear of being perceived as "weird," fear of not being successful (and being successful is so important, I mean, to be successful is paramount - it beats love, care, compassion, kindness, community, peace, goodness, concern for the future, all sorts of "left-wing" beliefs fall victim to the urge to succeed. I do not believe there will be any reckoning for our behavior. We have free-will, and we will continue to abuse it even if it kills us. Not that I care, I'm dying, as we all are, and I did not have children because the ape-like urge to breed somehow escaped me, and I looked at this world and thought: "do I hate someone so much that I would bring them here, now, to watch the degradation of something that once was beautiful and now grows ugly." No, I would not wish that on anyone I would love. Why do people wear black? They're going to the funeral, haven't you heard?


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