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Subject: Re: Why the tricks?


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Date Posted: 15:42:40 10/09/04 Sat
In reply to: Kris 's message, "Re: Why the tricks?" on 22:27:28 10/07/04 Thu

Okay...1, congrats to E for coming out. Let's keep in mind that while alternative media like the internet and radio are largely conservative, but newspapers and television are still largely in the liberal court. JOC aims to be a discussion group where we can discuss ideas, and shame on anyone who quotes the party line no matter which it is. That said...E, let's talk about job loss. I remember reading headline after headline about GE laying off 80,000 here, Disney 100,000 there, and you know when that was? January of 2001. The fact is, the economy was due for and experiening a major correction at the time of the Bush innauguration, and almost all of that 3 million jobs lost ocurred in the first year of his presidency - before any of his policies were in effect. Over the subsequent 2.5 years, 2.5 million of those jobs have been regained. Not too shabby. Are they in exactly the same industires? No, those manufacturing jobs lost aren't coming back, friends, no matter whom you elect, and no matte who was president. . If I'm 50 years and lost my job on the line at the plant, I might not be willing to accept that so quickly either. But for anyone our general age, you should realize that technology and economic shifts mean the sun is setting on the auto-plant town. And shame on democrats for going around saying they'll bring those jobs back. They won't, because it can't be done. As for the rest of the "jobs" arguement - are you aware that unemployment is more than a whole point lower than it was when Clinton was re-elected by a landslide in 1996? My company is hiring as fast as it can get people in. I don't know a single person who is unemployed not by design. What I have known is the occasional person who doesn't feel like getting a job so they take a taxpayer funded vacation while they dick around doing other crap besides working for a living. So, I'm not getting all that excited about the whole Bush is Herbert Hoover leading us to the Great Depression thing that Terry McCaulliffe and whomever reads his talking points would have us believe.

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