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Date Posted: 07:19:22 12/26/03 Fri
Author: zuwahrah
Subject: We're gonna get our asses kicked!
In reply to: zuwahrah 's message, "Re: IRAQ" on 22:06:09 02/05/03 Wed

I don't want to say that "I told you so", but, "I told you so!"

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[> [> [> Re: We're gonna get our asses kicked! -- Beetle, 10:41:08 12/26/03 Fri

And with what do you draw your conclusion? What those of the likes of Howard Dean says or what the likes of Lt. Gen Sanchez says?

When our news media reports that schools to women/children are up and running, when more political freedoms than ever before are instituted, when our soldiers are capturing more and more insurgents? ......Or, are you basing it on the fact the same news media gives MORE headlines to soldiers who get killed?

I think your idea is way too premature....and, too partisan.


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[> [> [> Re: We're gonna get our asses kicked! -- I agree with zuwahrah!!!!, 01:37:47 12/27/03 Sat

who cares if her/his type of attittude is destructive to the morale of our troops. It worked in Vietnam and 53,000 were killled. But just to prove a democratic party line point , lets roll with it. The economy is improving, we CAN'T go there, so lets attack our troops competence, let them know there getting "there asses kicked" in the Iraq situation and we'll get Bush that way.
Dean in '04 !! yay!!!


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[> [> [> Thank you Zuwahrah! You make our jobs much easier -- Bin-Laden, Saddam Loyalists & Al-Qaeda, 01:43:16 12/27/03 Sat


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[> [> [> [> So we should just keep getting our asses kicked? -- zuwahrah, 04:54:40 12/28/03 Sun

That's easy for you to say!


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[> [> [> [> [> Who determine were getting our asses kicked ???? YOU???? -- Gimme a break!!!!, 20:39:56 12/28/03 Sun

Why is that easy for me to say? I've BEEN there. Have YOU?????????????? Annnnnnd I'm going back in '04

want to come and see for your self? I'll save you a seat.

asses kicked???...FUCK YOU!!!!!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> How about them jints? Is that supposed to be the Jets or the Giants? Either way.... -- zuwahrah, 07:00:42 12/30/03 Tue

THEY SUCK!!!!!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> How 'bout that Progress? -- Beetle, 22:25:33 01/03/04 Sat

Statistics came from the COALITION PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY , Paul Bremer

http://www.cpa-iraq.org/index.html

http://www.vcorps.army.mil/www/CJTF7/default.htm

From: Seitz LtCol Scot S
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:40 AM
To: 1MAW MWSS171 All Personnel
Cc: Fenstermacher Col Stephen M; Kirkpatrick LtCol Stephen F; Chase
LtCol Eric T
Subject: ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Marines and Sailors,
As we approach the end of the year I think it is
important
to share a few thoughts about what you've accomplished directly,
in some cases, and indirectly in many others. I am speaking about
what the Bush Administration and each of you has contributed by wearing
the uniform, because the fact that you wear the uniform contributes
100% to the capability of the nation to send a few onto the field to
execute national policy. As you read about these achievements you are
a part of I would call your attention to two things:
1. This is good news that hasn't been fit to print or report on TV.
2. It is much easier to point out the errors a man makes when he makes
the tough decisions, rarely is the positive as aggressively
pursued.
Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1...
... the first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on
active
duty.
... over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
... nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.
... the Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
... on Monday, October 6 power generation hit 4,518 megawatts-exceeding
the
prewar average.
... all 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are
open,
as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
... by October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools - 500
more than scheduled.
... teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
... all 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
... doctors salaries are at least eight times what they were under
Saddam.
... pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700
tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
... the Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccinations to
Iraq's children.
... a Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's
27,000
kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of
farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men
and
women.
... we have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services
and
over two-thirds of the potable water production.
... there are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect
50,000 by
year-end.
... the wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite
dishes
to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities
and
towns.
... 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time
customers are opening accounts daily.
... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
... the central bank is fully independent.
... Iraq has one of the worlds most growth-oriented investment and
banking
laws.
... Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
... satellite TV dishes are legal.
... foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and
extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for "minders" and other
government spies.
... there is no Ministry of Information.
... there are more than 170 newspapers.
... you can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
... foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
... a nation that had not one single element - legislative, judicial or
executive - of a representative government, now does.
... in Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils.
Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when
the
city council elected its new chairman.
... today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and
professional
organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
... 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in
Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.
... the Iraqi government regularly participates in international events.
Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen
international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the
Arab
League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference
Summit.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening
over 30
Iraqi embassies around the world.
... Shia religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't.
... for the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites
celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
... the Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects,
large
and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
... Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to
the
zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force
cooperation,
torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
... children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree
with
the government.
... political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed,
or
are forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
... millions of longsuffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
... Saudis will hold municipal elections.
... Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
... Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
... the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
-- a
Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy
and
for peace.
... Saddam is gone.
... Iraq is free.
... President Bush has not faltered or failed.
... Yet, little or none of this information has been published by the
Press
corps that prides itself on bringing you all the news that's important.
Iraq under US lead control has come further in six months than Germany
did
in seven years or Japan did in nine years following WWII. Military
deaths
from fanatic Nazi's, and Japanese numbered in the thousands and
continued
for over three years after WWII victory was declared.
It took the US over four months to clear away the twin tower debris, let
alone attempt to build something else in its place.
Now, take into account that Congress fought President Bush on every
aspect
of his handling of this country's war and the post-war reconstruction;
and
that they continue to claim on a daily basis on national TV that this
conflict
has been a failure.
Taking everything into consideration, even the unfortunate loss of our
brothers
and sisters in this conflict, do you think anyone else in the world
could
have accomplished as much as the United States and the Bush
administration
in so short a period of time?
These are things worth writing about. Get the word out. Write to someone
you
think may be able to influence our Congress or the press to tell the
story.
Above all, be proud that you are a part of this historical precedent.
God Bless you all. Have a great Holiday.
Semper Fidelis,
CO


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