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Date Posted: Mon, 12/ 1/03 10:20am
Author: Ylva
Subject: For OneidaNewboy

Date Posted: Sun, 11/30/03 2:19am
Author: OnB
Subject: Re: The art of joking and helpless tries to change a crazy world
In reply to: Ylva 's message, "Re: The art of joking and helpless tries to change a crazy world" on Sat, 11/29/03 7:26am
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Wow.
That was a lot.(In a goot way)

Yes, I know. (Thank you). It's been "boiling" inside like magma for a long time. Vulcano Ylva needed an eruption before the frustration turns into blind hate. That's not what the world needs.

It is important stuff...especially the bit about having cheesy expectations because you haven't got bad motivations.

If I don't misremember I think I used the word "want" in the meaning of "wish", which I think is different from "expect"/"demand".

I don't really have a LOT of hostility,

I've noticed that. The things I've heard you say (which by far isn't all) annoy you are understandable to me.

and I tend to be very forthright in what I say, there's really no hidden agenda for me, [...]so I just optimistically figure that we can all get along if we really want to badly enough. I don't insist that there must be an ulterior motive to everything, I don't really be ulterior myself, ennit?

No.

As for being goofy- that's quite a lot of just who I am. I don't even think I'm doing goofiness to mask anything, I'm just a knuckleheaded guy who may very well have too much direct contact with methane.
My Dad is a knucklehead too. So it's genetic.

How nice :o) Masking (hiding feelings behind stone faces and never cry) is a treat in our family on my mother's side. She was raised by my grandmother and my mother (and father too) raised me, so I inherited that behaviour. It's a thing that hurts from time to time as my 1/2 Finnish father is a very softspoken and gentle person and I inherited more of his genes. That means I'm also softspoken and hard-hearted at the same time. Maybe something the Lakota part of you would call heyoka.

I did learn to refine my humor a bit- I would "carryon" to help my Mom feel better when she was sick, come up with silliness and weird stories to get her to laugh. When you are cleaning someone or helping them change spots on the bed and it hurts, if you can get them laughing a little bit, then it's easier on them.

That's beautiful. What you've done for your mother, my mother has done for the past 26 years in a nursing home for old and/or sick people. I know all her stories and how hard that particular kind of work is. So I see you did a very good thing for your mother.

So I would invent or exaggerate,(kinda like my cow pound escapades), and get her bathed was easier and less painful and stuff. That would be where I might say I have an ulterior motive for being a goofy.

That's the "hospital clown". We saw a documentary movie on tv once about a clown school in the USA training clowns specially for working at hospitals. The pupils would practice goofyness at least 3 hours a day and help people heal by laughing or at least smiling.

I have no idea how Swedish and Finnish people are different. Do they look different from each other?
Different languages? Clueless me.

Yes, in general Finns and Swedes have a bit different features. And their languages are worlds apart though the countries are close geographically - Finnish is part of the Finno-Ugric language family, Swedish is Nordic/Indo-European. A few examples to demonstrate the difference (first the word for "house" and then "to be at home"):

hus (Swe.) - koti (Finn.)
vara hemma (Swe.) - olla kotona (Finn.)

I'm gonna scamper on down to the next area.......nice discussion, Y-lady

Well, I put on my sneakers again and rush off. Yes, nice discussion. Thank you, OnB. This is a little much again, I know, but I'll be gone for a while now as we're taking time off and go up to my parents, so I took the time to round off here. My mother has serious heart problems due to too much stress at work and we want to be near her in these difficult times.

The grey November weather doesn't really cheer you up either; things that also influenced my mood lately. Most Nordic people get pretty down at this time of the year. It's getting darker and darker and it's dark for a long time. Personally I can't stand the hypocrisy of x-mas, know myself and my bad mood too good and think it's a good time to get away, be patient and digest the impressions of the past year. Be well.

Ylva

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Replies:

Re: For OneidaNewboy/Back at ya -- OnB, Tue, 12/ 2/03 9:48pm
- Re: For OneidaNewboy/Back at ya -- Ylva, Wed, 12/ 3/03 6:25am