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Date Posted: 11:02:27 08/30/03 Sat
Author: test
Subject: Re: UFO and Alien information letter.
In reply to: Mark 's message, "UFO and Alien information letter." on 20:39:39 11/13/02 Wed

>I found this in UseNet.
>======================
>
>Howdy Sir Arthur C. B. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
>
>Glad to see your posts here in UseNet
>NewsGroups as usual. I think you are a very
>clever professional and sometimes very funny
>too.
>
>The 'MAYNARD' posts are certainly level-headed
>and excellent reading. With over 300,000,000
>people online... I'm surprised no-one is
>replying with some feedback for the people that
>might be interested in feedback. Then again I
>do understand several reasons why feedback here
>doesn't occur. Infact feedback from the public
>about these sujects is rather rare all over
>the internet.
>

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>In think that is good news because people can
>read as much or little as they want, or not
>read much at all. Thanks to the USA lifestyle
>they are free.
>
>As you know, in these UseNet NewsGroups I have
>been half 'Nutty Space Jester' and half
>'Serious Feedback'. Especially recently.
>
>It is a technique I'm experimenting with at the
>moment, and will continue as it seems to be
>ideal in these remarkable NewsGroups. As I am
>not out to change the world.
>
>Just a couple of my funny posts are funny. And
>just a couple of my serious posts are serious.
>The rest will be lost in www.archive.org for a
>super computer in 1000 years time. That super
>computer might be able to design, map, track,
>theorize, and even draw a 3D image of all the
>posts people ever made here :-)
>
>'Twonky's 3D part will be interesting.
>
>NOTE: some visitors to my apartment do
>influence my posts sometimes.
>Probably the parts 'Harlow' doesn't like ;-)
>
>Anyway, I personally now, will share just a few
>more thoughts on your post "FULL DISCLOSURE"...
>
>
>1. I have a lot of respect for the people that
>gave Linda Moulton Howe that information. (I've
>mentioned before)
>
>2. I have a lot of respect for the 'top secret
>group' mentioned in the book Left at East Gate'
>(If true)
>
>3. The respect is there because I have to
>respect someone. (people do)
>And it would be faith too.
>
>--Nearing now to your topic "What effect would
>FULL DISCLOSURE really have?"...
>
>4. (sometimes) I've been very carefully telling
>friends and acquaintances a little about the
>discoveries. Most friends and acquaintances are
>very receptive and/or know about these subjects
>to varying degrees. But I've noticed the unknown 'fear
>factor' percentages in my friends and
>acquaintances. The unknown for the
>unexperienced is fearful enough. Like the end
>of the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey... Some
>people might have said "oooh look at the pretty
>colors" and some people might not have.
>
>However, any person put in that situation for
>the very first time without any experience of
>it ever before... would definitely shit their
>pants. (or worse) And that's no good :-)
>
>So this in itself is another reason for my
>respect in group #1 and #2 above. ( or the
>"control group" )
>Even though fear and ridicule has been strong,
>it is really only like an inoculation.
>
>Especially compared to World War 2.
>
>5. So, people are being given plenty of hints
>via the media. Infact I have more respect for
>the media these days too. i.e. Whether that DVD
>'SPACE' with Sam Neill was authorized down from
>the control group or not... it is truly
>genius. Even though it has some questionable
>parts like... Seth Shostak saying "I'm sure the
>aliens are using a lot of radio".
>
>:-)
>
>6. Now, I personally feel that even with all
>the education, situations after "FULL
>DISCLOSURE" will occur, and that is a shame.
>But if many other intelligent beings are out
>there on other planets... I bet they have had
>to deal with the same experience.
>
>7. For example... panic today after disclosure
>won't be to bad with people that have been
>educated. I've done a lot of study and I'm not
>panicking, and would not panic. The only thing
>I panic about is being unlawfully thrown in
>jail for creating my/our websites about Aliens
>and UFOs. A 'bad cop' I met resently made me
>think hard about jail and the hell there.
>I'm not a criminal or an animal, so I do panic
>about being thrown in jail. That's why when I
>thought I had been hacked I tried to email #1
>above. (my email address was tampered with too)
>I'm on the control groups side. I panic
>about whether I'm doing the correct thing by
>giving feedback. Yes, some of my friends know
>about my 'hobby'. But they would never get
>involved or give feedback to save their life.
>
>And if there were no other websites online
>about Aliens and UFOs... I would be collecting
>stamps or playing golf instead. (I'm just an
>extravert, not a great leader)
>
>I just put myself in other peoples shoes often.
>Meaning that if I was in the control group...
>I would hope for a variety of feedback from people
>on these subjects.
>That's why we have the Internet.
>The Internet makes people mentally tough,
>and allows feedback capability.
>
>8. With "panic" aside now. Disclosure might
>have an effect on me in these ways for
>example...
>
>(a) I would still want a mortgage for a nice house.
>
>(b) I might not buy art or paintings with hope of a
>good investment.
>
>(c) I would buy art or paintings if they were my
>favorite.
>
>(something enjoyable like that eases the stress of
>everything)
>
>
>9. With "disclosure" aside now. There will be
>other issues that will crop up within time.
>i.e. Imagine flying to Mars and finding
>1,000,000,000,000 tons of gold. The control
>group will be very important then too. Because
>balance is certainly very very important.
>
>10. Speaking of "balance" I never told you this
>before... When I was between the age of about 3
>- 12... I had among others, two types of dreams...
>
>(a) "Rough and Smooth" dreams.
>
>Rough would move further into rough and it
>would be too rough. My mind would try to pull
>away from rough. Then very slowly moving away
>from rough into smooth. Feeling safe and
>reassured at first, smooth would slowly get too
>smooth and my mind would try to pull away from smooth.
>etc.
>
>Only feeling content, safe, and reassured in the
>"balance".
>
>(b) also "Big and Small" dreams.
>These had the same effect.
>
>
>======================================
>Disclaimer: all the information I post
>may be jokes, fun, abstract art,
>moron chat, crazy stuff, honest opinion,
>and whatever people here like to call it.
>
>I would just like to continue to be
>a law abiding citizen concentrating on
>contributing in a good way to society
>and my future careers.
>
>In time I will provide a PGP key
>to the control group if ever necessary.
>
>Have a nice day!
>
>
>======================================================
>
>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 00:57:40 GMT, Sir Arthur C. B.
>Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
>
>>what effect would full disclosure have on our social,
>religious and political
>>organizations?
>>
>>MAYNARD: Let me take each one of these aspects of
>our lives in reverse order:
>>Political life and organizations: When it comes to
>UFOs and alien contact, in
>>our current system, at least 98 percent of our
>elected officials are as much in
>>the dark as the rest of our citizens. It is also a
>simple fact that our elected
>>officials are so greedy that they have not been able
>to look beyond that greed
>>to what has been happening in our country, but I
>should add that this is not
>>all-inclusive. As for world organizations, primarily
>within the leadership, such
>>as the UN, and industrial nations, their current
>level of knowledge probably
>>goes beyond what the American populace is aware of,
>yet, it is still shrouded in
>>secrecy to the nth degree.
>>
>>Religious organizations: For the most part, the
>majority will be totally and
>>utterly devastated and receive a blow to their
>theology. Yet, there will be a
>>full element within the religious community that will
>take this in stride and
>>will not be shaken by the announcement. It will be
>that element that leads the
>>way to a greater understanding of the scriptures and
>the theology of a one-God
>>concept.
>>
>>Social aspects: This is probably the most difficult
>to predict or provide an
>>assessment for. I would have to say that, as a whole,
>the social aspects of an
>>alien presence will have a dramatic effect at first,
>which is a given fact.
>>However, there have been many more similar types of
>changes in our social
>>structure, some subtle, while others [are] more
>dramatic. Each change basically
>>was taken in the essence for what was burst on the
>scene. Although, some of
>>these changes did not come naturally or easily, in
>that some were caused by
>>civil wars or revolutions, while others were a
>cause-and-effect on society over
>>a period of time. Still, the power to conquer
>flight, the automobile, mass
>>transit, and onward to space travel --in other words,
>basic technology-- have
>>all been taken in stride. I feel that our social
>aspects will survive, and yes,
>>there will be some suicides and possibly some type of
>conflict over this
>>knowledge. But the change will come, and it will
>probably be for the better.
>>

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