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Date Posted: - Tuesday - 09/ 7/10 - 8:28pm
Author: Paul - 1971 mariner 31 - #106
Subject: Change your perspective...
In reply to: Leo 's message, "Backing out of slip with higher crosswinds" on - Tuesday - 09/ 7/10 - 7:15pm

You will NOT be able to "turn the bow" unless you have a bow prop or something... the prop and rudder are only able to move the stern of the boat via prop walk and pressure on the rudder...

On my boat, with left handed prop, I get prop walk to starboard as I put the engine in revers (for stopping or to start backing).

To point the boat in the direction I want in tight quarters I make the stern move (remember, you can't move the bow) towards it's preferred direction (propwalk) by giving hard rudder to port and keeping it there, while alternating with short but relatively powerful bursts of prop action in forward and reverse...

The forward thrust finds the rudder and pushes the stern to starboard as if to make a turn to port; as soon as I start to make measurable forward motion, put the engine in reverse and the prop walk will continue to favor moing the boat's stern to starboard while breaking and eventually edging to reverse motion, which is then stopped by another burst forward - all along with the rudder hard to port.

Sometimes you'll have to make a 270 degree turn - starting in the wrong direction - but believe me, the boat will not move the boat's stern against the prop walk when there is little room and an opposing wind... You'll just see-saw your way down wind without ability to get the stern behind the bow into the wind...

Finally, if all fails, it is probably better to back out and continue backing into a spot where there is a bit more room to get enough forward motion to turn the boat in the direction you seek...

Sorry for the lenghty response...

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[> Backing with crosswinds -- Tom, - Wednesday - 09/ 8/10 - 1:55pm

I, and all others at my marina, have this problem. The only thing we've found that works is to get a long line. My slip has the pier to starboard. I have someone at the stern holding the line and the line, with one-half wrap around the end cleat. The line needs to be a minimum of twice the boat length. After we've backed into the channel far enough, after clearing the other boats, we pull the stern around by pulling on the line. with no knots in the line, the bitter end will round the cleat and you can pull it home. It is the only way we've found as the engine and the prop walk just isn't sufficient.


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