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Date Posted: - Wednesday - 07/ 7/10 - 12:49am
Author: Randall
Subject: MONITOR INSTALLED--mostly
In reply to: Randall, Murre, M31 's message, "Monitor Wind Vane discussion" on - Friday - 06/25/10 - 3:10pm

Got the thing on this weekend, including an alternate way of mounting the wheel adaptor.

I jury rigged sheet blocks and went for a quick sea trial sail on Monday. Jib only and close reaching, which Murre handles well anyway. And the vane sheet ropes were way too loose. But still, it worked.

Result on YouTube, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrraZVZVrM

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[> [> MONITOR, more "tests" :) -- Randall, - Monday - 07/19/10 - 2:03am

The word "test" makes this sounds like work. Wish I could get paid for this kind of work!

This weekend I tried the Monitor on a few more points of sail, still jib only. NOAA reported wind in the bay was 30 - 35 knots at Pt Blunt. Don't know what it was on Murre (we passed directly behind the point) but would bet it touched 30. So the genny was about half rolled in.

For the broad reach, the boat was balanced with wheel amidships when locked to the Monitor. For the beam reach and quartering run, it was about half a turn to leeward.

The Monitor held the boat on course to within a point or two and always recovered. Each run was about 15 minutes long.

I shot the masthead to "prove" wind direction. Didn't show up too well.

TURN YOUR VOLUME OFF when viewing the videos. The sound of wind is ... deafening.

On a broad reach.


Wind on the quarter.


A beam reach.


This last tack was odd in that the Monitor was hard over the whole time but had apparently locked Murre into a balance for the wheel barely moved. The tack was only interrupted by a tanker that had the bad taste to cross our track.

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[> [> [> Glad to see it is working out -- Jared Kibele, - Monday - 07/19/10 - 12:16pm

I'm glad to see the monitor is working for you. ...both for your sake and so I know that servo-pedulum is an option for Architeuthis. I've read elsewhere on this forum that the Norvane owner was reluctant to sell one of his vanes for use on a Mariner because he thought it wouldn't work. I wonder if your experience with the Monitor might change his mind? I could just copy you and go with the Monitor but 1) they're so expensive and 2) I just spent a bunch of time and effort beautifying my transom and the monitor looks a bit like a jungle gym attached to the stern.

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[> [> [> [> Beauty is in the eye -- Randall, - Monday - 07/19/10 - 1:59pm

What's that nautical expression?, "Beauty is spray over the bows--leave the stern gallery to the ladies." (kidding)

Totally get you from an aesthetic point of view, but I'm not sure Norvane is all that much of an improvement from the jungle gym perspective. And one advantage of the jungle gym is it can be used to climb aboard; the thing is hugely strong for its weight (about 50 lbs?).

Don't know what the best system is--my experience is limited to this vane and about 3 hours on the bay.

But I've been tickled to begin to learn this one and see it work. Quite amazed, actually. Am still in the jib only stage, but I guess jib only in 30 knots wind and 6.5 knots over the water ain't too shabby.

What ever you choose, you are also required to deliver photos! :) Would love to see it working on your boat.

As to the cost, yes!--shockingly expensive--all of them. I bought this one used and under 1/2 retail. The entire unit is stainless except for the servo gear (bronze on mine--stainless on newer ones) and a few plastic, cheaply replaceable parts. So it doesn't really "wear out" in the normal sense.

Good Luck!


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[> [> [> [> [> I think my next boat will be ugly -- Jared Kibele, - Tuesday - 07/20/10 - 12:34pm

In general, I tend to agree with function over form and aesthetics be damned but, when it comes to this particular boat, I just can't get there. Several people have advised me to remove bright work or at least paint over it and they've made very good rational, compelling arguments. I can't bring myself to do it. The visual appeal is a large portion of what made Christine and I fall for this boat so regardless of how much of a pain it is, we're trying to keep it pretty.

Someday we may get a larger boat. I'm hoping that it will be ugly.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Ha! Good luck buying an ugly boat. :) -- Randall, - Tuesday - 07/20/10 - 2:37pm

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Ugly -- Bruce, - Wednesday - 07/21/10 - 1:11pm

Heh - my guess is that after cruising for extended time that your definition of what is ugly and what is beautiful will evolve

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I'm not so sure -- Jared Kibele, - Thursday - 07/22/10 - 12:41pm

I could easily imagine owning a boat like the Tartan offshore cruising ketch (http://www.vesselexport.com/SB2/1.JPG) but I have a really hard time believing that I'd consider it pretty.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Oops, that link didn't work -- Jared Kibele, - Thursday - 07/22/10 - 12:46pm

How 'bout this one: http://www.vesselexport.com/sb2.html

And then there's this: http://ads.boatboss.com/13_Mobile/22615_MacGregor_26X_Motorsailer.html

I see those all over the place and there may be good reasons to own one (though I'm not sure what those reasons are) but they make me want to poke my eyes out.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> OK, I get your point :) -- Randall, - Thursday - 07/22/10 - 7:06pm

...and I looked the the photos of Architeuthis and see your concern re hanging anything off the stern. What a beautiful wooden banner. Did you make it?

Where's the name come from? Giant Squid?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I didn't make it -- Jared Kibele, - Friday - 07/23/10 - 12:43pm

Yep, Architeuthis is the genus name of the giant squid. I'm a bit of a cephalopod fanatic.

That banner was on the boat when I got it but I did spend a great deal of time stripping it, sanding off all traces of the old name, creating a stencil, varnishing, painting on the new name, and varnishing more. And because the paint got damaged while removing the old hailing port, we repainted the whole transom while we were at it.

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