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Date Posted: - Wednesday - 07/19/06 - 2:56pm
Author: Steve Cox
Subject: Staysail for an M-32

In looking at the owners pages I noticed that several boats are double-headed (two jibs). Can anyone share how they installed such a system and is it worth doing?

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[> Multiple Jib Ketches -- Mike Cox, - Wednesday - 07/19/06 - 7:46pm

Our beloved ketches already pay a heavy "rigging penalty" for the extra weight and drag aloft on such a small boat. I would spend the extra time/money rigging a mizzen staysail if you don't already have one to add an "extra gear" on a reach. I really don't see many advantages of multiple jibs on our ketches. It would allow for a stay for a storm jib closer to the center of effort, but use of a storm jib would be very rare and there are other alternatives. Another advantage of an inner forestay is that it might, depending on it's set-up, save the mainmast if the bowsprit and forestay fail, but I think that's very rare if you follow a maintenance and inspection routine. Some of the disadvantages are: complicates tacking, more weight and drag aloft so probably won't sail any closer hard on the wind (maybe not even sail as close as the single headsail arrangement on our ketches), inner forestay gets in the way on the foredeck, extra cost of rigging, etc. I think it's undisputable that the Mariner's main advantage is on "power reaching", so the largest benefit gained to the sail plan would be in filling the area forward of the mizzen with additional sail area under the right conditions, i.e. light to moderate wind reach with a mizzen staysail. Check out the following link and Comment from Jeff: http://www.sailnet.com/forums/buying-boat/7430-diffrent-rigs-schooner-ketch-cutter-sloop.html. It is a good discussion of different types of sailboat rigs.


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[> [> Last comment by Mike Cox of Gypsy Mariner -- Mike Cox - Gypsy Mariner, - Wednesday - 07/19/06 - 7:48pm

Per your request Bill.


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[> Two jibs -- Jake, - Tuesday - 07/25/06 - 2:09pm

Steve, I installed an inner club footed jib on our boat "Maranatha". The out jib is an roller reefed yankee jib which is clewed high, and the inner being the club footed one. The greatest andvanage to this set up is center of gravity. the two sails lower the center of gravity with out reducing the sq. feet. so in a good blow in the fall here in New England I sail with these two and maintain footage, and speed. In light wind I can remove the bottom of the inner stay sail cable and put up our 150% genny.I have aluminum spars so the attachment on the mast was easy to install. I had this piece welded before I had all my spars painted with emron paint.This arrangment makes it easy to reduce sail also in a blow, I roll in the yankee and sail with the club footed jib, and then reduce the main next if.. well I hope this answers your question! Take care, Jake


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