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Subject: A view also given on Seattle and it's worth/also expressed ERG not out of the woods yet--re results coming up March 6th--market sentiment/may or may not like them.


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Lost's views post 3902 Feb 21-03 - estimated value based assumption9.5% margin-Sydney breaking implementation 5 stages 1st-lasts 4 mths/different earning multiple scenario's
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Date Posted: Saturday, March 01, 07:04:01pm
In reply to: Pre consolidation post consolidation. 24/1/03 's message, "Shares on issue ERG" on Thursday, January 23, 09:16:54am

(just edited down the bottom a bit no one is supposed to know who bonkers is--if they find out that he is an ex forkilft driver who has experienced a couple of deaths in immediate family, broken up with his partner--lives in modest circumstances--they'll put the boot in further.--LOL)
Thankyou to everyone who simply can aid in transparency of accounts---number of people to thank--the share price can go down or up--the point being--you have to know what you have bought and also know what you have sold and all the stuff done is greatly helpful in analysis thakyou Lost and just simply everyone.
Kind regards,--BK.
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Posted by: lost Feb 21 2003 8:32:48:733PM Reply to post #3902 by jvd Go to Post #
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ERG not out of the woods as yet.
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Likely impact upon market sentiment to be their results in the next couple of weeks. Market may not like them. Not sure what the six months to 31 December 2002 will be like.
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To explore the Sydney contract in a bit more detail, they will earn $94Million in revenue until implementation is completed in late 2004. Looking at previous results this contract has a 9.5% margin on it. If you break the implementation stage into five components then ERG will earn $18.8Million in revenue a stage or $1.786Million profit (attribute 4 months approx to complete each stage). Now that ERG have signed contract with NSW government work will begin and if they complete the first stage prior to June 30 then this will be in the full year profit. The estimated effect of the revenue and profit will be as follows:
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2002-2003
Stage One completed - Four months
$18.8Million Revenue
$1.786Million Profit
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2003-2004
Stage Two to Four - Twelve Months
$56.4Million Revenue
$5.358Million Profit
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2004-2005
Stage Five - Four Months
$18.8Million Revenue
$1.786Million Profit
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If the above figures accurately reflect what ERG's price margin is the following would occur:
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On a 15 x earnings multiple $26.79Million will have been added to the market capitalisation.
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On a 20 x earnings multiple $35.72Million will have been added to the market capitalisation.
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However, in 2003-2004 financial year the following would occur:
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On a 15 x earnings multiple $80.37Million will have been added to the market capitalisation.
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On a 20 x earnings multiple $107.16Million will have been added to the market capitalisation.
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Presuming that the new share structure goes ahead (approx. 280Million shares on issue) and the base value of the share price is $1.50 or a market capitalisation of $420Million (give or take a few million dollars), then add the above 20 x earnings equals $527.16Million or $1.88 per share. If only 15 x earnings then $500.37Million market capitalisation or $1.78 per share.
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If you were to compare this price to the current shares then divide by ten and then add approx 3 to 4 cents above fifteen cents per share.
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These prices exclude the maintenance contracts due to long time until they are earned as revenue, plus I am unsure of the profit margin on this business.
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Also note that Seattle will be signed before the end of April 2003. Seattle is the same price value as what Sydeny is, so assume that another 3 to 4 cents per share could be added.
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When the new share stucture has been approved by shareholders each contract signing of this type will add 30 to 40 cents per share.
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None of the above includes estimated value to ERG of its Smart Card division. If there is good growth in the six months report then expect a higher share price if the market analysts recognise it.
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Best of Luck Lost
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"Provision is raised against pre-contract costs until ERG has won the contract or is identified as the sole preferred tenderer." Sydney.This financial half 30/6/2002 to the 31/12/2002.Melbourne SettlementSaturday, March 01, 10:26:32pm
    Currently 936,879,165 shares on issue (pre reconstruction)Adding the recurring side of it up-----2.85 mill plus 1.9mill equals 4.75 million. per yearworking out the recurring side of Melbourne Settlement. this is an estimate--Melbourne Settlement dividing by number of shares on issue equals 0.5070024158 (half a cent)Sunday, March 02, 12:56:48am


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