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Author: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:48:03 -0400 (EDT) |
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Date Posted: Monday, April 28, 08:45:59am In reply to: http://www.ozestock.com.au/MessageView.aspPostID=226683&Symbol=ERG 's message, "My understanding is that NY & NJ tender process will commence later" on Monday, April 28, 07:17:14am To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Subject: Smartcards for NYC transit being considered From: Information Security Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Jun 10th 1998, NBC-TV & NY1-TV, full story in The Post # # New York City is now considering scrapping the MetroCard # in favor of issuing "smartcards" (transponders) for riders. # # Reason: so card can be read without current swiping problems. # The card would be "detected in your pocket". This would bring us to Singapore-style tracking of each individual person. It would perfectly complement this: : "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996 : : In New York City, the FBI spent millions of dollars to install a permanent : "fully-functional real-time physical tracking network." : : It should come as no surprise that the FBI did not announce this addition : to its investigative bag of tricks: a citywide network of hidden sensing : devices that pick up signals from a moving vehicle and immediately project : the precise location on a large illuminated map located in the FBI's New : York command post. : : When the FBI's technology head was asked how the new tracking system was : working, he looked surprised, and didn't answer the question. "How did you : know about that?" he asked. : : The FBI denied a request for a tour of its Manhatten command post, where : the output from its instantaneous tracking system is displayed for the : brass. : : In 1993, however, the FBI allowed a reporter who was working on what the : bureau expected would be a friendly article to visit the inner sanctum. : : The command center, she later wrote, "looks not unlike the Starship : Enterprise, of 'Star Trek.' On the rear wall of the room are three giant : screens on which neighborhood maps, live field surveillance, and graphs : charting the progress of a manhunt can be projected. : : Law enforcement officials, at stations in three semicircular tiers of : desks, can watch---and direct---as criminals are caught in the act. : : Their computer mouse screen pointers are a gun icon. What do smartcard transit cards mean? Many, many things. If a crime occurs somewhere, the police will be able to call in all people in the area who used transit at the time, for questioning. And, of course, full tracking of your movements, from bus/subway to toll bridges (EZ-PASS transponders). ---guy Information Security was overheard saying ... > > # Jun 10th 1998, NBC-TV & NY1-TV, full story in The Post > # > # New York City is now considering scrapping the MetroCard > # in favor of issuing "smartcards" (transponders) for riders. > # > # Reason: so card can be read without current swiping problems. > # The card would be "detected in your pocket". > > This would bring us to Singapore-style tracking of each individual person. Accepting the fact that the comment above is by a reality-challenged person, I will have to state, for the sake of my sanity and all people who would like to know the honest truth, Singapore as a country does not track anyone. I cannot see how Mr Reality-Challenged can ever think that Singapore does that. Mr Reality-Challenged reads too much into Gibson's "Disneyland with a Death Penalty". Enuf said. > It would perfectly complement this: > > : "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996 > : > : In New York City, the FBI spent millions of dollars to install a permanent > : "fully-functional real-time physical tracking network." > : > : It should come as no surprise that the FBI did not announce this addition > : to its investigative bag of tricks: a citywide network of hidden sensing > : devices that pick up signals from a moving vehicle and immediately project > : the precise location on a large illuminated map located in the FBI's New > : York command post. > : > : When the FBI's technology head was asked how the new tracking system was > : working, he looked surprised, and didn't answer the question. "How did you > : know about that?" he asked. > : > : The FBI denied a request for a tour of its Manhatten command post, where > : the output from its instantaneous tracking system is displayed for the > : brass. > : > : In 1993, however, the FBI allowed a reporter who was working on what the > : bureau expected would be a friendly article to visit the inner sanctum. > : > : The command center, she later wrote, "looks not unlike the Starship > : Enterprise, of 'Star Trek.' On the rear wall of the room are three giant > : screens on which neighborhood maps, live field surveillance, and graphs > : charting the progress of a manhunt can be projected. > : > : Law enforcement officials, at stations in three semicircular tiers of > : desks, can watch---and direct---as criminals are caught in the act. > : > : Their computer mouse screen pointers are a gun icon. > > What do smartcard transit cards mean? Many, many things. > > If a crime occurs somewhere, the police will be able to call in all > people in the area who used transit at the time, for questioning. > > And, of course, full tracking of your movements, from bus/subway > to toll bridges (EZ-PASS transponders). > > ---guy -- Harish Pillay h.pillay@ieee.org Singapore *** Ask me about Linux *** http://home.pacific.net.sg/~harish [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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