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Subject: Re: the meaning of life...discuss! (repost)


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xander
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Date Posted: 18:23:56 05/14/03 Wed
In reply to: Mr.Riley 's message, "Re: the meaning of life...discuss! (repost)" on 19:10:25 05/13/03 Tue

i concur that perception is important, but i must say that you struck something very important with the culture thing and the religion thing that i think you didn't realize. That is this: people drive themselves with different morals (surgeon, stalin's bitch, monk, etc.) and beliefs. They are, of course, affected by the culture and religion that they are immersed in, and in many placest to a large degree (this is why places with a plethera of different thoughts and beliefs, like america, spawn teenagers who can converse in deep philosophy) but everybody comes up with their own meaning and moral structure.
I believe that there really is no universal meaning but that we, sentient and wise humans, are a huge huge HUGE evolutionary coincidence, and very unlikely too. We live in a universe of molecules and objects, but like we have come to understand them, we have come to understand the abstracts (emotions, notions of freedom etc., god). We appear to be made to understand.
So, we are put in this universe to exist, and because we were designed with the same curiosity that gave us fire, we feel the need to understand. So I propose that there is no answer to these questions, because the questions are made by humans, whose emotions were made by instinct and don't run on the same wavelengths as existence. Our perception of the way things are compells us to ask questions that really don't make sense if you think about it. Why would there be an answer. Existence IS, and that's it.
But of course by thinking these things up, we have esentially played god and mad them exist. Our perception (and very stirring and noble) way of thinking have brought love, god, order, happiness and a million other just lovely things. So we're not that bad. In short: there is no such thing as many of our abstracts, but just by percieving it, humans can make abstracts clear and obvious intangibles. Why, then, not the meaning of life? Because everyone is far too dissimilar and affected by too many of riley's culture and religion.
In conclusion, we must find our own answer, as there is no answer. Just by believing and cherishing it, your answer will be just as real as love or hate. And you can live by that.
Why must we come up with this answer, you wonder? To be content and happy, one must understand. By pondering and discovering your own way of understanding, you can reach your own nirvana, as it were.

"A good man is born into a room where he is weeping and all around are laughing. A good man departs from the world in a room where he is laughing and all around are weeping"--English Proverb.

Find your own answer, and you can smile on your deathbed. There is of course use in discussing the details, but in the end you must come up with your own answer.

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