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Subject: great conversation with jon spence Author: zamommy [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 19:13:57 06/04/03 Wed IllFuSeIll: do you see things for everything that they're not? Zamommy1121: no Zamommy1121: not often IllFuSeIll: i dont mean you specifically, but i mean as a principle of the universe, is that how it works? Zamommy1121: once in a while though IllFuSeIll: think about it on a deeper level Zamommy1121: oh Zamommy1121: hmmm IllFuSeIll: like colors, you see them for what they're not Zamommy1121: yeah Zamommy1121: excacly IllFuSeIll: like does everything work like that? IllFuSeIll: like are you everything but you? IllFuSeIll: as in your Self Zamommy1121: no Zamommy1121: i dont see that Zamommy1121: how can you not be yourself...you mean see? IllFuSeIll: no, i guess i mean on more of a spiritual plane IllFuSeIll: like your... soul maybe, but not quite IllFuSeIll: like your center IllFuSeIll: i guess Zamommy1121: how can our souls not be us, when they are the essence of us Zamommy1121: i could see if you said we see what we are not, but no be Zamommy1121: not IllFuSeIll: unless everything is vanity Zamommy1121: so being is seeing IllFuSeIll: yeah Zamommy1121: hmm IllFuSeIll: like our reality, what do we really have? IllFuSeIll: what we see Zamommy1121: you could look at it that way, Zamommy1121: what we percieve is our being Zamommy1121: we only know what we "see" IllFuSeIll: no no, you can't perceive yout being if your being is doing the perceiving IllFuSeIll: your ego perceives your being IllFuSeIll: that is if by being you mean sense of self; soul Zamommy1121: no Zamommy1121: i think we observe, and translate that into what our being really is Zamommy1121: so our seeing is being IllFuSeIll: and if what we observe, is everything that it's not.... IllFuSeIll: we are everything that we are not Zamommy1121: BINGO Zamommy1121: but there is the IF IllFuSeIll: i beleive it Zamommy1121: i do as well. to an extent IllFuSeIll: that's why you naturally hate stupid people IllFuSeIll: you hate them, because you dont want to except them as a part of yourself Zamommy1121: cuz they are what were not Zamommy1121: no Zamommy1121: i mean IllFuSeIll: yeah i know IllFuSeIll: you got it backwards Zamommy1121: yeah IllFuSeIll: they aren't what we are Zamommy1121: yeah IllFuSeIll: AHHH i tihnk its paradoxial... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]