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Suicide!!! -- dattaswami (Joyful), 09:30:12 07/19/06 Wed
Suicide!!!

This human life is very rare. Next human birth is still rare. The ignorance of real aim of the life leads to thoughts of suicide due to tensions created in this unreal drama. Will any body kill himself or herself really on the stage while acting a drama? Is he or she not a fool? Is he or she not mad? Suppose a student is defeated in cricket game and commits suicide. Is he or she not mad? Suppose a student is defeated in cricket game and commits suicide. Is he not a fool? The game itself is a side activity meant for a change. This worldly life is just a side activity and one should not get even tension in this worldly life, not to speak of suicide!

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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Bond of blood -- dattaswami (Joyful), 09:31:28 07/19/06 Wed
Bond of blood

Even the bond with your child is unreal because the blood from your body entered into the body of other soul. This external gross body is destroyed here and the bond is destroyed with that gross body. The soul of Abhimanyu in heaven did not recognise his father, Arjuna, for the same reason. The bond with wife is more unreal which is formed due to touch between the two gross bodies, which are like the external clothes.

The bond of the child perishes with the death. The bond with wife may die at any moment with divorce even with in the span of this life time, having a greater probability to give misery. The Gita says the same (Ye hi samsparsajaa bhogah �). A realised soul will not entertain himself in such unreal bonds (Na teshu ramate budhah � the Gita).

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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Why my life is with full of problems? -- dattaswami, 09:34:39 07/19/06 Wed

Why is my life full of problems related to money, relations, stress etc? Why do all the decisions that I take always go wrong?
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Man proposes and God disposes to show that you should not be too much involved in the worldly affairs and that you should turn to Him. The failures in the world show that God is very much interested in your case and is constantly trying to divert you towards Him. The failures and problems are real friends, who will turn you to God.
The success with fame is the real enemy, which drags you away from the God. When Lord Krishna asked His aunt, Kunthi, to ask for a boon, she asked Krishna to continue only problems in her life. Her argument was that she remembered the Lord always in difficulties. She wants to remember God continuously. All the things in this world proceed according to the wheel of deeds (Karma Chakra).
You cannot change the destined route of things in this nature. They reflect the systematic administration of rules and regulations laid down by the Lord. You cannot change the nature of the external atmosphere. You must cut your mental attachment to the external atmosphere and remain peaceful. With the peaceful mind, you must concentrate on God.
You are standing in the sea and meditating upon the Sun. You cannot stop the waves. The waves in the sea should not move your mind. Your body or your cloths may be moved but not your mind. For this you must think that you are not the clothes and you are not the body. You are the soul, which is pure awareness.
All the external bonds are related to your body and mind (feelings) only. This is called as self-realization through self-analysis. Sankara stressed this first part of the spiritual path because this is common to all the human beings in this world. The attainment of God is the second part of the path. Mental worry is like fever.
Attainment of God is like attaining special strength. All the fever- patients want to get rid of the fever. After liberation from the fever, some of the patients may try to get special strength by taking special tonics. Ramanuja and Madhva stressed this second part of the spiritual path through the propagation of devotion. But, the first part is common to all the patients as stressed by Sankara. The self-analysis is like the anti- biotic medicine for the fever. First you must get rid of the fever. Without subsiding the fever, you cannot proceed for tonics to attain special strength. For the first part, there is no need of even the concept of God.
Getting rid of the fever is peace. Attaining of God is bliss. Peace is required to get the bliss. Peace should not be mistaken as bliss. The soul is in your body only. If you attain the soul, you have attained your money, which is misplaced, in your house. When you get it, your worry is removed and you become peaceful. You need not become happy because it is your money only. But when you get some money on the road, outside your house, you are happy. The first part is avoiding loss and second part is attaining profit.
The Advaita scholars are very happy when they have found their own misplaced money in their houses. They feel as if they have attained money from others. They are satisfied with � No loss� and feel that itself is the profit. They invest money in business and want their original money only at the end of business. They say that this is only the maximum profit. They deny the merchants who have more money as profits. Ofcourse, these innocent scholars are better than the merchants who are in loss. They are better than mentally worried people. But they think that peace is the bliss. For them, �no loss� is the only profit.
I am therefore, advising you to take the anti-biotic, which is the self- analysis as the first drug. Even for this drug to act properly and immediately, grace of God is essential as said by Sankara (Eeswaraamugrahaadeva�).

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Human incarnation's course of action -- dattaswami, 09:40:16 07/19/06 Wed
Human incarnation's course of action

Swami is the human incarnation of the Lord. Swami can also be a Guru. A Guru is a human being who preaches the knowledge, which was already preached by the Lord. Guru is not Swami. Therefore the preaching by Swami and the knowledge of Swami is always wonderful. Every concept preached by Swami will be very clear as a pure crystal. There is no confusion in the concept because Swami is always very clear of the truth. A Guru sometimes fails to clarify the concept because he gets confused in some places. Swami is the very source of the knowledge and therefore He is called as Narayana. The Guru preaches the knowledge and leaves you but Swami preaches and also guides you till you reach the goal. As on out-patient, you can get the prescription from a doctor. This is the stage of Guru. But as an in-patient you will be admitted into the hospital under the personal supervision of the doctor.

The doctor tests you every day and gives medicine with his own hands. Similarly Swami will test you very seriously and gives appropriate knowledge, which is the medicine. The responsibility of Swami is complete. The doctor will not discharge the in-patient unless the patient is cured of the disease completely. Similarly Swami will not leave you unless you get the salvation and Kaivalyam. Salvation means getting rid of the disease. Kaivalyam means getting the strength. The detachment from all the worldly bonds is salvation. The attachment to the Lord is Kaivalyam. Both are the duties of the doctor. Therefore Swami will not leave you unless you achieve both. Once you are admitted into the hospital you have no choice and you are at the decision of the doctor. Therefore the usage of the word Swami should be done very carefully. Unless you are fully sure that you have recognized the Lord in human form, you should not call Him as Swami.

You can call Him as Guru. If you recognize Swami you have to completely surrender to Him like the in-patient. Otherwise you can call Him as Guru as out-patient and in such case you may follow His preaching or may not follow. If the worldly bonds are not cut, you will be born in the cycle of animals and worms. This is a loss to you. If you have attained Kaivalyam, it is a benefit. Even if there is no benefit, there should be no loss to you. Even if you are not attaching yourself to the Lord, at least you should cut the worldly bonds and get at least the human birth. But there is no use of the salvation (Moksha) without the Kaivalyam. If you are maintaining your present status there is no use. What is the use of selecting the best doctor unless you follow his prescription in practice? Similarly even if you have caught the real Satguru who is the incarnation of the Lord there is no use.

You cannot get rid of the illness by praising the doctor or his prescription. Similarly there is no use of praising the Lord unless you practice the preaching of the Lord. To avoid the forbidden food is salvation. To take the medicine is Kaivalyam. Salvation involves Vairagyam (detachment) and Kaivalyam involves Bhakti (devotion).

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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Try to enjoy the worry -- dattaswami, 09:44:12 07/19/06 Wed

Try to enjoy the worry
When worry is inevitable, enjoy it and be wise
Even continued happiness leads to mental worry
Thus happiness and worry must be alternative
If you are worried by the continued happiness
You are worried at the cost of the result of your good effort

Instead of this it is better to get worry at the cost of your sin
Let the sin give some trouble and then you worry out of it
In this way the result of the sin is spent and the not the result of good effort
The loss in your present worry may be compensated in the future
But the time lost in your past worry cannot be compensated
Because the life span of any human being is fixed

Your loss may be compensated by million times in the future
But even one second of your lost time can never be compensated
Therefore, understand this and think about the value of the time
This knowledge of the value of time is called as �Kala Janana�
Which means the knowledge of the future that you should know,

Which provides the possibility of the compensation of all the loss
Except the loss of time, therefore, time is the most precious.
You may waste anything that can be again procured in the future,
But never waste the time, which you can never compensate.

There are two ways to escape the mental worry in this world
The first way is by obtaining the peace, which is zero
The second way is by achieving the bliss, which is plus
Worry is minus, peace is zero and bliss is plus
To escape minus, either you should be in zero or in plus

Bliss can be obtained only from the Lord in this world
Since Veda says that the Lord alone is bliss �Anando Brahma�
Veda also says that the Lord alone can give you the bliss
�Esha Hyeva Anandayati� this is quite logical in fact
The water is alone cool and so it alone can give coolness
Whatever is said in the Vedas, it is always logical

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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What is the meaning of human rationality? -- dattaswami, 09:46:07 07/19/06 Wed
What is the meaning of human rationality? Does it mean

� What ever the human being says, rational (Reasonable) or irrational (Reasonless), should not be accepted
or
� Whatever reasonably said by the human being should not be accepted.

If you take the first case, since you are a human being, what ever you say should not be accepted, whether you say reasonable or reasonless. If it is the second case, you should be accepted because whatever, you said is reasonless. Then you should be a mad person because only mad people speak reasonless. If you say that you are not mad person, then you should have spoken reasonable, in which case you should not be accepted, since, a reasonable saying of the human being should not be accepted according to the above version (b).

You say that God should not be introduced into a human being. Then you are not a true Christian because Christians believe that God is introduced into the human being just like the blood of father is introduced into the son. Christian believes that Jesus is the son of the Godfather. If you say that Jesus is only messenger of God and not the Son of God, then you are not a Christian and you belong to Islam. Islam says that a messenger is not Son of God but he is only a servant of God. At this point only Christianity separated from Islam. Originally both Islam and Christianity were one religion only. Islam treated Jesus as the messenger like Mohammed. Christianity is separated from Islam because they treated Jesus, closely related to God like a son to his Father. In fact Christians of higher order believe Jesus directly as God because Jesus told the same "I and my Father are one and the same ". This saying proves clearly that God and the human incarnation are one and the same. Therefore, being a true Christian, you should accept that God enters the human being or even temporarily becomes the human being. In both the cases, God either enters or pervades all over the human being. In the case of human incarnation, if you deny both these possibilities, then your Christianity becomes Islam and you are not at all the Christian because you are denying the very fundamental of the Christianity.

In Hinduism all the three concepts are present

1. Advaita of Sankara says that the Lord and the human being become one and the same in the case of human incarnation. Example is Rama. In this case God pervades all over the human body.

2. Visishta Advaita of Ramanuja says that the Lord is present in the heart of human being as in the case of human incarnation, for example Hanuman, who tore His heart and showed Rama in that

3. Dwaita of Madhvacharya says that the Lord is separate in the heaven and sends His servant to this earth as a messenger. For example, Balarama is the Adi Sesha who is the servant of Lord Vishnu in heaven and is the human incarnation.

Thus, Hinduism contains all the three concepts. The first two concepts are called Christianity and the third concept is called Islam. The Mahayana branch of Buddhism worships Buddha in the form of statutes as God or the devotee in whose heart God is present. In fact according to Hinduism Buddha is directly the Lord since he is treated as one of the ten human incarnations of the Lord. Just like Christianity arose from Islam, Buddhism arose from Hinduism. The Heenayana branch of Buddhism treats Buddha as a preacher of divine knowledge and treats Him as an ordinary human being. This concept is the concept of Islam or the concept of Madhvacharya in Hinduism. Thus, Hinduism is a mini model of the entire universal religions. The Science represents atheism. Even this atheism is represented in Hinduism by the sub-religion of Charvaka (Nastika Matam). All the sub-religions of Hinduism are the religions in the world. Whatever is in the world, it is present in Hinduism.

Universal spirituality brings the unity of all religions in the world and thus it brings the unity in all the sub-religions in Hinduism also. Rationality is the essence of the science. The scientist will laugh if you speak any thing irrational (Reasonless). Even in the small matters of this world, we analyze with reason and logic before we follow it and we say that we should not be emotional in taking any decision. Then how much logical we should be in such great spiritual effort, if you want to attain real success?

In Christianity Jesus is called as Emmanuel, which means that God comes down from heaven to live with us. Only a human form can live with us and guide us through knowledge. The Popes at that time also did not believe Jesus as God or at least as Son of God or even as messenger of the God. They did not like the God to be introduced in human being as you say now. They believed only the dead messengers and not Jesus, who was the then messenger. The same logic applies today also. You believe the messenger who does not exist now. You do not believe the messenger who now exists before your eyes. Jesus told that He would come again. It means that the same human incarnation will come again and the same story repeats. The same Jesus is present today and the same people who were blind with egoism and jealousy are present again today. Therefore, I say, the history repeats. As Jesus was insulted, then, today also the egoistic and jealous people will insult Jesus. Jesus will come in every human generation to give His direct contact. Otherwise, God Jesus becomes partial, because He gave direct contact to one generation only and not to the other generations. He clarified the doubts of one generation only through His direct voice and now He allows the immature human devotees to answer the doubts directly in the other human generations. He provided the fortune of touching His feet in one generation only and other generations are deprived of that fortune. This makes Jesus totally partial and you say that God is impartial. All the religions also say the same. How can you justify this important statement that God is impartial? Therefore, we have accepted that God is coming in human form like Jesus in every human generation. To avoid answer to this, you are saying that reasoning should be avoided. When reasoning is discarded, you need not answer any question. Whatever you say that must be the truth. You are rigid without any logic and this is the blind conservatism. This cancer is present in every religion and humanity is always is divided by this cancer. You are opposing the unity of humanity and want to disturb the world peace. God will not tolerate you, and you will be thrown in to permanent hell for misleading the ignorant people.

If you see Bible, Jesus gives reason everywhere in His concepts. For every statement He gives the reason. When the priests asked Him that He should not have saved the animal, which has fallen in the pit on the festival day, He gave the reason for His effort to save that animal. He analyzed the Old Testament and gave logical interpretations. He did not mind to cut some irrational blind statements present in the Old Testament, by giving rational modifications. He has fulfilled His duty to be the true guide of the humanity. Whenever He leaves the world these rigid people twist and pollute the meanings of scriptures. To rectify He comes again and again. When the teacher leaves for a few minutes the class becomes undisciplined. The teacher comes to the class again and again. For teaching, the human form is essential. A statue cannot teach you. If you think Him formless, He is not speaking to you from the sky or space or air. The human body is most convenient medium for the human beings to hear preaching of the God. The main goal of God is to preach the human beings and correct them to put in the right spiritual path. For beginners, He does some miracles as signs for His presence in the human body. The realized souls will detect Him even without those signs. Sheep see the shepherd and come near by recognizing him with eyes. Some milder sheep come near by hearing his voice, which is a miracle. The mildest sheep try to go away and are punished by the stick of shepherd, which is nothing but permanent hell.

Therefore, if you keep Jesus in the place of the present human incarnation and place the same blind priests in the place of present blind followers, you can understand the truth because the same story and the same cinema is repeated with different actors having different names. This is the best way of understanding the truth. Those priests also opposed Jesus, when He argued with wonderful reason. The duty of the teacher finishes by teaching clearly to the class. It is up to the student to grasp it and pass or twist it and fail following the sweet emotional advises of bad blind friends. The Lord is not worried about the percentage of pass because there is no fault in His teaching. He should not be blamed for the pass or failure of the students. A student himself is to be blamed. When the messenger comes to the earth, he delivers his duty so that the God is pleased with him in the upper world. He is not bothered about the fame in this world or the number of followers. God will not find fault with the messenger if the human beings did not pass. He finds fault with the messenger if the message is not properly delivered. Jesus never bothered about propagation of His knowledge. His aim was only to sit on the right side of His pleased Father after doing the duty assigned by Him. He never cared even if the people rejected, insulted and even crucified Him. His aim was God but not the world.

For ignorant people the personality of Jesus is a human being crying on the cross and shedding the blood. This personality will kindle the heart of any human being. Initially this will be the attraction for the beginners. But if you stick to this personality only, that body has gone once for all. You can now only worship an imaginary statute of His form on the cross. That human body will never appear again in the same physical level. For such ignorant people Jesus will never come again because the same physical body will never appear again. Only an energetic form can appear to the eyes for a few moments. If you say that you have seen the same physical body, now also, you cannot show it to others. When Jesus was alive and some one told, "He is the Jesus", every visitor saw Him with his eyes. Now that same situation is not present. The real inner personality of Jesus is His divine knowledge, which is the Holy Bible. That divine knowledge is inseparable characteristic of the inner unimaginable God. Then that inner God comes in another human body. This divine knowledge appears again, as it is the inseparable sign of the God. Jesus is the inner personality for the realized scholars. Similarly the beautiful Krishna with flute attracts the beginners but His inner personality is His divine knowledge, which is Bhagavat Gita. When Jesus told that He will come again and Krishna told that he would come again and again whenever there is necessity that refers to the inner personality. The unimaginable God along with His inseparable sign, which is the divine knowledge, is coming again. This interpretation is reasonable. The inner God by himself is unimaginable or irrational and is beyond reason. When such inner God wants to give His experience to the human beings, He cannot follow the irrational or unimaginable ways, in which case, He cannot be experienced. The purpose fails. Therefore, the irrational God adopts rational procedures and enters rational medium to give experience to human beings. God is unimaginable but His experience should be imaginable. For this purpose He enters reasonable medium i.e., human body that can be seen and touched. Only the human body can live with us (Emmanuel) and we can clarify our doubts only with the human body.

You blame me that I am introducing God into human body, but what have you done? You have blended God with the human body of Jesus and say that only Jesus is God. You say that Jesus became alive again since the dead body disappeared. I agree. He might have controlled His life for some more time. It is against the rules of nature and science, if you say that the same physical body is alive even today. It is completely irrational because you should show the physical body of a person even to a non-believer. Now to avoid my argument you say that the rationality must be rejected. I apply the same argument even to the body of Krishna. It was cremated by Arjuna and cannot return back. Of course the Lord can use His special power to make it permanently alive. But that will violate the rules of His own administration. All the rules in the creation are His rules only. No sensible administrator will violate his own rules, when an alternative is possible. The alternative is to come again in another human body. The body is like a shirt as told in Gita. The person is not the shirt and shirt is not the person. Gita says that the God is not modified into the human body (Avyaktam Vyakti Mapannam��). The person did not become the shirt but He wares the shirt as said in Gita (Manusheem Tanum �). The Lord wares the human body and does not become the human body. If you touch the shirt present on His body you are getting the experience of the inner body. Similarly the inner God gives His experience through the external body. You are blaming Me for introducing God into human body but you have made the God to become the very human body itself. You have made another mistake by saying that God is that particular human body only, called as Jesus. It is a mistake because in such a case when the human body is destroyed, God is not destroyed. The shirt is torn into pieces but the person is not cut. Recognition of this inner personality in all the shirts of various religions, which are various human incarnations, is universal spirituality. You may change any religion but you are in the house of universal spirituality. You have gone from one room to another room of the same house. If you go out of the house, then you have become atheist and then only your case is miserable. As long as you remain as theist, you are in our house only. In whatever room you may be, my advice to you is that you should recognize the same air, the same space and the same light present in every room. Also, all the walls and roof of every room are made of the same material. In whatever room you may be present you must realize the truth and awake with divine knowledge, but should not sleep with ignorance. The sleep and awakening are also common in every room. Every religion contains both the ignorance (sleep) and the divine knowledge (awakening). Every religion contains the same human incarnation having the same external physical body and the same internal unimaginable God. Change from the ignorance to awakening in whatever room you may be present.

You are not Jesus, who is the judge and whose statement should be taken without any logic. Both of us are devotees of Jesus and the statements of both of us cannot be the judgments. We have to argue like advocates in the court, to find out the true version of the statement of Jesus. No human being has the right to reject the logic in finding out the truth. The judge can say "No argument. Here is my judgment". But the advocate cannot say this to another advocate. When the truth is found out by the mutual arguments of both the advocates, both are benefited because the truth is now known to both. Therefore, you should take My knowledge in the search of truth and should not take it as personal defeat or personal success. We both are colleagues having a common aim, which is finding out the truth.

Without medium no fruit can be achieved. Without the wire, you cannot move the fan with the help of the electrons (Electricity) flowing in the atmosphere. Even for an abstract thing, a physical medium of expression is needed. When you love some body, you are giving a gift to him. The gift is the physical medium through which abstract love is experienced. Abstract means imaginable but unseen. God is unimaginable and also is unseen. Therefore, the physical medium is very essential for experiencing God. Even if you treat the messenger as an ordinary human being, he brought the message to you from God and He is the only person who can take your prayer to God. The Sun is in the sky and the lens is on the earth. The power of Sun entered the lens. Both the Sun and the illuminated lens are the sources of the solar energy. Both can be treated as one and the same. If you insult a policeman, the I.G. feels insulted. Thus, God identifies Himself with the servant. Adisesha was the servant of Lord Vishnu and came as the human incarnation called as Balarama. Balarama is one of the ten incarnations of the Lord. When the divine power (Holy Spirit) dawned on Jesus, He became God through out of his life. By this, God pervaded all over the body of the Jesus. God lived in His body and so He said that He and His Father are one and the same. When the body is ready for destruction on the cross, God left that human body and so He cried "Oh! Lord why did you leave Me?" Therefore, the eternal God leaves one human incarnation and enters another human body for the next generation. Without the physical medium, one cannot directly approach the unimaginable God and so He told "One can approach my Father through Me only". Here the word Me means the human body and not that particular human body only. If God is that particular body only, it was the God that was crucified and so God was destroyed then itself. Then "Jesus will come again" becomes false. Here the word Jesus indicates the internal eternal God through body of Jesus.

If you follow anyone with blind faith, who exploits you by kindling your ignorance and emotion, one-day or other your inner consciousness will repel and rebel. Jesus never told, "Follow Me blindly. Ask me no reason". Those priests told like that, and blind people followed them and discarded Lord Jesus. But the preaching of Lord Jesus convinced a few people. They always addressed Him as preacher. A preacher will always teach the subject with logic and analysis only. Only military officer will say "No argument � Follow me". God is fully capable of preaching through logic and analysis with fine reasoning. What is the necessity for Him to stoop down to the level of a layman or a mad man to avoid the reasoning? In catching the Lord you must analyze thoroughly. Otherwise there is a danger of catching a false blind preacher.

Once you are sure of the Lord, your faith should start, which should be above the analysis and logic. The reason is that He is above logic. But to filter the fraud preachers, analysis is essential. Your faith should not contain logic, but it should stand on the firm logic. You must achieve the faith through logic and stop the logic after attaining the faith.

The human incarnation is never accepted in past, present and future because the egoism and jealousy of the human beings are never crucified. When God is fully revealed in the human incarnation, people reject Him due to egoism and jealousy. If God is hidden in the human incarnation, then also they will reject by treating Him as an ordinary human being with negligence. Therefore, the human incarnation should neither express God fully nor should hide the God completely. He should express the God to that extent only, which can remove the negligence but should hide God to that extent, which cannot raise the egoism and jealousy. The behavior of the human incarnation is thus a balance point of the mixture. The human incarnation itself is a balanced mixture of the unimaginable God and physically perceivable human body. The unimaginability or inexplicability of the God, called as Brahman or Jehovah or Allah, which is expressed through the silence of Buddha. Buddha kept silent about God to indicate that God is beyond the words and imagination. Some followers immediately misunderstood Buddha as an atheist and the most pitiable point is that He Himself is one of the ten incarnations of the Lord.

You can neither reach God directly due to His unimaginable nature, nor recognize Him when He comes to you in human form due to negligence. The final result is only total loss in any case. I pity this unfortunate humanity in this ultimate spiritual point. This makes the souls to rotate in the cycle of creation continuously for the entertainment of the Lord forever and perhaps that is the intrinsic wish of the Lord!

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Strong objection in spreading true divine knowledge -- dattaswami, 09:47:34 07/19/06 Wed
Strong objection in spreading true divine knowledge

The true God comes down in human form with true knowledge and His few true devotees accompany him. These few devotees belong to His inner most circles and constitute His family. In Satyaloka (True world), He is surrounded by millions of angels and sages, who will be hearing the true knowledge from His mouth. All of them are His followers and they constantly praise Him. After some time the Lord wants some rest and He comes down to the earth along with His family. On this earth nobody recognizes Him, nobody listens Him and nobody follows Him. It is just like a big officer disgusted with the large crowd in his office goes to some foreign place along with his family, where he is not identified. The Lord emits the true knowledge on the earth and His own family members who are in the human form will only listen and follow Him. What is the use of that drama here? Already they were His followers. The aim of this drama is to inspire the people of this world so that at least one person on the earth can become His follower. Gita says the same (Kaschitmam..). The Lord is not fond of money or fame because He is the husband of the Goddess of wealth. He is not fond of the fame, because He was bored with the fame as millions of sages and angels praise Him. When the Lord comes as preacher, He is called Satguru. The other human beings are called as only Gurus.
These Gurus are fond of money and fame. They don�t know the true knowledge. Even if they know they will not preach it because not a single person will turn to them. Infact even in the case of Satguru, same is the case but His followers who accompanied Him are turning to Him. Therefore the Guru preaches false knowledge following the psychology of ignorant people. To please the ignorant person, you must preach him strictly following his psychology. Even if you say something in addition, that should not contradict his basic psychology. For Ex: - when you preach a blind person, he will be happy if you say that there is always darkness in this world. He will be happy since he always experiences the darkness.

In addition, if you say that there is Sun on the sky, you must say that the Sun is also black. He will be happy to this additional Sun because the Sun is also black. Suppose you say that there is light in the world, he will not agree since it contradicts his experience of darkness. Suppose you establish the existence of light and the existence of illuminating Sun through powerful logic, he will become emotional and violent because your concept not only contradicts his experience, but also could not be defeated by his counter logic. It is a double blow on him. Kauravas did not concede the preaching of Lord Krishna for the same reason. The priests for the same reason opposed the preachings of Jesus. Mohammed fought with several religious leaders for the same reason. The priests who were killing animals in the sacrifice opposed Buddha.

Conservative religious leaders oppose even a true scientist. The scientist wants practical proof and logical proof. All the human incarnations never adjusted themselves to the world. They preached the true knowledge only because their aim was the future generations. One generation is nothing compared to millions and millions of generations on this earth.

When the Lord comes down as Paripurna Avatara, His devotees existing in Brahmaloka or Satyaloka come down along with Him to assist His mission. The other human incarnations are the human forms into which the power of the Lord enters. Such human incarnations are called Avataras of Kala, Amsa etc. Such incarnations are followed by the devotees existing in the lower worlds below Satyaloka, which are called as Jana Loka, Tapoloka, Maharloka etc.

When the Lord Himself exists in the human body that is called Paripurna Avatara like Lord Krishna. In the case of Purnaavatara also the Lord exists but does not emit the true knowledge like Rama. The human incarnations from the upper worlds come to the earth. In the same manner the human incarnations of Saturn (Kali) also come to the earth from the lower worlds below the earth. These worlds are called as Asura Lokas, which are the abodes of demons. These lower worlds are called as intensive hells. A soul fallen in these hells is condemned and can never return to the earth. There is a hell in the upper worlds also. Such souls, which can be rectified by punishment, will enter that hell in which the Lord is sitting in an energetic body called �Yama�. Veda says that a soul, which harmed itself by turning towards the world, is committing the real suicide. Such soul goes to the lower permanent hells. Thus both the divine and evil forces enter the earth and fight with each other.

In this Kaliyuga the strength for divine force is only one-fourth. It is like a question with multiple choice having three wrong answers and one correct answer. Lord can destroy all the evil forces in a fraction of a second. But He allows the opposing force because both the forces are essential for a game. This world gives entertainment to the Lord like a game. Veda says that the purpose of the creation by the Lord is only the playful entertainment. Moreover, if one comes out with such multiple-choice questions, such success is real. Whatever the Lord does, it is always multi-dimensional. Therefore, you should not be discouraged by this severe test. Your devotion and determination in the service have a real test in this Kali age. Sankara emitted the true knowledge irrespective of various opposing scholars. Finally He was killed by the black magic of Kapalikas. He died by the disease called �Bhagandhara�, which is flow of blood. Kapalikas tried to cut His head also. But He never feared and established the true knowledge for the future generations. Similarly Jesus, Bhuddha and Mohammed. Even Swami Dayananda was killed by food poisoning, because he established the true knowledge based on Vedas and Sastras.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

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Fulfilled Bible Prophecy -- Pahu, 11:29:43 11/01/06 Wed

Israel would be re-established as a united nation

Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:21-22
Prophet: Ezekiel
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Ezekiel 37:21-22, the prophet said about 2600 years ago that God would one day bring the Jews back to Israel, as a united nation. Israel had been split into two kingdoms in about 926 BC, called Judah and Israel. But, when the Jews reclaimed sovereignty in 1948, they did so as a united people, creating one nation�Israel.

Can man accurately reveal the future?
Can God?

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Jesus is God -- Pahu, 13:25:10 11/08/06 Wed

GOD:
�Thus declares the LORD [YAHWEH]
who stretches out the heavens,
lays the foundation of the earth,
and forms the spirit of man within him�.
They will look on Me whom they have pierced�
(Zechariah 12:1,10)

JESUS:
�After having Jesus scourged,
he handed Him over to be crucified�.
But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear�
(Matthew 27:26; John 19:34).

If we would enter eternal life,
we must repent of our sins,
submit to Jesus Christ as Lord
and obey His
Ten Commandment Law.

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Science Disproves Evolution -- Pahu, 14:41:18 10/23/06 Mon

Big Bang?

The big bang theory, now known to be seriously flawed, was based on three observations: the redshift of distant starlight, the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation, and the amount of helium in the universe. All three have been poorly understood.

Redshift. The redshift of starlight is usually interpreted as a Doppler effect, that is, stars and galaxies are moving away from Earth, stretching out (or reddening) the wavelengths of light they emit. Space itself supposedly expands�so the total potential energy of stars, galaxies, and other matter increases today with no corresponding loss of energy elsewhere. Thus, the big bang violates the law of conservation of energy, probably the most important of all scientific laws.

Conservation of energy is violated in another important way. If there was a big bang, distant galaxies should not just be receding from us, they should be decelerating. Measurements show the opposite; they are accelerating from us.

Many objects with high redshifts seem connected, or associated, with other objects of low redshifts. They could not be traveling at such different velocities and remain connected for long. For example, many quasars have very high redshifts, and yet they statistically cluster with galaxies having low redshifts. Sometimes, quasars seem to be connected to galaxies by threads of gas. Many quasar redshifts are so great that the massive quasars would need to have formed too soon after the big bang�a contradiction of the theory.

Finally, redshifted light from galaxies has some strange features inconsistent with the Doppler effect. If redshifts are from objects moving away from Earth, one would expect redshifts to have continuous values. Instead, redshifts tend to cluster at specific, evenly-spaced values. Much remains to be learned about redshifts.

CMB. All matter radiates heat, regardless of its temperature. Astronomers can detect an extremely uniform radiation, called cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation, coming from all directions. It appears to come from perfectly radiating matter whose temperature is 2.73 K�nearly absolute zero. Many incorrectly believe that the big bang theory predicted this radiation.

Matter in the universe is highly concentrated into galaxies, galaxy clusters, and superclusters�as far as the most powerful telescopes can see. Because the CMB is so uniform, many thought it came from evenly spread matter soon after a big bang. But such uniformly distributed matter would hardly gravitate in any direction; even after tens of billions of years, galaxies and much larger structures would not evolve. In other words, the big bang did not generate the CMB.

Helium. Contrary to what is commonly taught, the big bang theory does not explain the amount of helium in the universe; the theory was adjusted to fit the amount of helium. Ironically, the lack of helium in certain types of stars (B type stars) and the presence of boron and beryllium in �older� stars contradicts the big bang theory.

A big bang, for all practical purposes, would produce only hydrogen and helium, so the first generation of stars to somehow form after a big bang should consist of only hydrogen and helium. Some of these stars should still exist, but despite extensive searches, none has been found.

Other Problems. If the big bang occurred, we should not see massive galaxies at such great distances, but such galaxies are seen. A big bang should not produce highly concentrated or rotating bodies. Galaxies are examples of both. Nor should a big bang produce galaxies with the spacings among them that are actually observed. Also, a large volume of the universe should not be�but evidently is�moving sideways, almost perpendicular to the direction of apparent expansion.

If a big bang occurred, equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been made. For every charged particle in the universe, the big bang should have produced an identical particle but with the opposite electrical charge. (For example, the negatively charged electron�s antiparticle is the positively charged positron.) Only trivial amounts of antimatter have ever been detected, even in other galaxies.

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Re: Science Disproves Evolution -- Pahu, 10:28:55 11/10/06 Fri

BIGGEST BIBLE MISTAKE EVER -- ALF, 17:20:21 11/26/06 Sun

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A message from GOD -- Franszwa (To all of you), 19:13:03 12/12/06 Tue
[ Tattoo or Graffiti ] on you or on

GODS HOLY TEMPLE,

Read: Leveticus 19:28 do not tattoo your self.
1 Corinthians 6:15 Do you not know that
your bodies are members of Christ himself?
1 Corinthians 3:16-19 Don't you know that
you yourselves are God's temple and that God's
Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys [any which way]
God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple
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1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Therefore Honor GOD with your body
Romans 8:8-11
Ephesians 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words,
for because of such things [ Remember] Matthew 5:19
God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,
. Isaiah 55:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

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Salvation -- Pahu, 13:04:19 01/04/07 Thu
My understanding of salvation, as revealed by God in His inspired word, is that we are all sinners on the way to the lake of fire and annihilation. Jesus Christ died in our place so that we would have the opportunity to escape eternal death and receive the free gift of eternal life. Even though salvation is free, we have to fulfill a condition. We must repent of our sins (lawbreaking (1Jhn. 3:4)), submit to Him as Lord, and obey His Ten Commandment Law, which is the foundation of righteousness. God will not allow anyone in heaven who will not obey Him. Since Jesus Christ is the only name under heaven given to mankind through Whom we will receive the free gift of eternal life (Acts 4:12), there is no other religion that can save us.

The Law cannot save anyone. Salvation only comes through the fact that Jesus shed His blood in our place. He suffered our punishment so we would not have to. Salvation is offered as a free gift. We can do nothing to earn it. We must, however, fulfill the condition of repenting of our sins, submitting to Him as Lord, and obeying His Ten Commandment Law.

Salvation is free. Repentance, submission to Jesus as LORD, and obedience to His Ten Commandments is a condition we must meet. Think of it this way: Suppose your rich uncle said he would give you a million dollars if you would quit smoking for a year. Your uncle earned the million dollars. Quitting smoking is a condition. The money is free if you fulfill the condition. Quitting smoking will never �earn� you a million dollars.

Here are some verses that seem to support my understanding of salvation:

�If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments� (Matthew 19:17).

�Repent (and each of you be baptized) in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit� (Acts 2:38).

�The mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so�However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him� (Romans 8:7,9).

�He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him� (John 3:36[NASB]).

�He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation� (Hebrews 5:9).

So it seems that we can conclude that IF WE WOULD ENTER ETERNAL LIFE, WE MUST REPENT OF OUR SINS, SUBMIT TO JESUS CHRIST AS LORD, AND OBEY HIS TEN COMMANDMENT LAW. If we do not obey Him, He is not our Lord. If He is not our Lord He cannot be our Savior.

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The hourglass is nearly empty. The culmination of End Times is upon us and the Great Tribulation is just around the corner. There are a total of TWO things that you need in order to obtain Eternal Life and Man-Made Religion is not one of them. (1) A Good Heart Condition. (2) An Acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior. We urge those who wish to obtain Eternal Life in Christ's Kingdom to read the following very important message: An Important End Times Message

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We don�t aim to twist arms or convince anyone of anything they aren�t ready or willing to believe as their hearts will ultimately dictate what they perceive to be truth. However, it is also our responsibility to warn those who do not accept this Truth, will face Judgment at Armageddon. For this reason we pray that the eyes and hearts of all who read our message are opened to the Truth whether that is now, or in the near future when our words come to pass.

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I am not sending this to you to preach religion. I am asking you if you were standing before a Holy God do you think that He would have an issue with your sin if you were standing in front of a Holy God?

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