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Subject: Hello JeffF and Mark7..


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Clint1
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Date Posted: 21:32:34 07/10/02 Wed
In reply to: JeffF 's message, "Clint!" on 08:17:15 07/09/02 Tue
 Yes, I had a wonderful 4th, just a lot of memories from my previous military and Government experience I think about. Family members who gave there life and call to duty. I have been able to look at the sacrifices they made as for the American freedom and it sooths me.
No, 9/11 will be here for a while, and it will get nastier before it gets better, some of these Muslim countries are going to wake up to the fact that democracy is a way better life, it will take years yet to come, but I believe the end results will come forth for a better world. Now we need to combat drugs with education, help for the addicted and school to get them on their feet for a working class citizen.
So, hope all have a remaining nice year and better ones yet to arrive..
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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, God Save America


Author:
Mark7
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Date Posted: 02:17:12 07/11/02 Thu
Only problem is, America will get worse before it has a chance to get better. We cannot get better before 2004 unless we manage to impeach the idiot.

We are a country in a deep recession, at war without end, and led by a retard!

God Save America - I will pray for all American men and women in uniform. It has to be a horrible faith to be lead in war by an idiot who has no problem sending others in harms way, while he himself, with the help of his dady has managed to stay safe from the slaughter of 50,000 others in his generation.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Drugs


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JeffF
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Date Posted: 08:45:31 07/11/02 Thu
I agree, Clint. We need education and help for the addicted in the war against drugs. The war has not been fought sensibly. We focus too much on the supply side, not the demand. I agree that we need to do everything we can to help addicts recover and lead productive lives. You can never win the war against drugs by focusing solely on drug producing nations.

A couple of other points. I think there are a number of people in Muslim countries, especially those who have been to college here who know that Democracy is a better way of life. The trouble is that the majority of Arab countries are dictatorships where people are not allowed to express this opinion too openly if it threatens the top rulers. It takes a lot of courage in most of the Arab countries to speak out for human rights.

And a quick word of thanks, Clint for your service to the nation. Especially after 09/11, it's important to thank people.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Drugs


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Mark7
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Date Posted: 01:35:20 07/12/02 Fri
Just like with drinking or sex, puritanism is a social perril. You cannot save people from themselves. I think most drugs should be legal and the proceeds taxed so programs can be funded for treatment.

But there is too much money in keeping drugs illegal, so I doubt it will happen.

By the way, I read that Afganistan is going to have a bumper crop of poppy this year, with the Taliban ousted.

Good job Dumbaya! Can't find Osama, but you can sure shoot million dollar missiles at cammels!
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Drugs


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JeffF
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Date Posted: 07:23:06 07/12/02 Fri
Of course, you can save people from themselves. You just can't do it by arresting people. That's what treatment is - saving people from their own addictions/habits.
We also need to increase educational programs. Maybe have some recovering addicts speak at all schools. People who have been there can sometimes talk other people out of starting.
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