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>At 9 Monday morning, I'll start calling the planning >commission, DEP, the school, etc. Until i find >someone who knows whats going on. I'll post whatever I >find out , here on this forum by lunchtime Monday. > > >have a good weekend. > > > > > > >>The Daily American article states that a large public >>forum is going to be scheduled "as early as Jan 29." >>Please post the date on here if anyone finds out when >>it is. >> >>Thanks. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/01/1 >6 >>/ >>>news/tuesday/news06.txt">http://www.dailyamerican.com >/ >>a >>>rticles/2007/01/16/news/tuesday/news06.txt</a> >>> >>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apst >o >>r >>>ysection/local_story_352232054.html">http://www.tribu >n >>e >>>-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_3 >5 >>2 >>>232054.html</a> >>> >>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apst >o >>r >>>ysection/local_story_346083139.html">http://www.tribu >n >>e >>>-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_3 >4 >>6 >>>083139.html</a> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>This is the first I heard of a proposed new landfill >>>>across the river from the existing one. Does anyone >>>>have factual information on it? >>>> >>>> >>>>>We are all intelligent enough to believe what we >>want >>>>>and make our own decisions.......hopefully based on >>>>>fact and not conjecture (a little more research may >>>be >>>>>in order to find out what really stopped the acid >>>rock >>>>>dumping in Indiana County). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If I put trash out on my curb and it ends up in my >>>>>>backyard that is one thing. When Bruce Springsteen >>>>and >>>>>>Rudolf Guiliani put trash out on their curb and it >>>>>>ends up in my backyard, that is a completely >>>>different >>>>>>matter. >>>>>> >>>>>>Remember the acid rock controversy in Indiana >>county >>>>>>last year? That was stopped dead in its tracks. >Not >>>>by >>>>>>cooperation, or by "having a voice at the table", >>>>that >>>>>>was stopped by a bunch of angry locals just saying >>>>>>"NO!". >>>>>> >>>>>>Look at Paint Creek, Shade Creek, Blacklick Creek, >>>>the >>>>>>Little Conemaugh...that smelly orange water isn't >>>the >>>>>>result of protests and opposition. That is the >>>result >>>>>>of cooperation. >>>>>> >>>>>>What more can be lost? As it stands they are set >to >>>>>>bury yet another 5 million tons of solid waste >>along >>>>>>the banks of the region's best whitewater river. >>>What >>>>>>worse fate is there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>That is certainly one way to look at it. But, >try >>>>to >>>>>>>read this with an open mind...Another may be that >>>>the >>>>>>>landfill is EXACTLY the type of partnership that >>is >>>>>>>necessary for the paddling community. The >>landfill >>>>>>>understands they do have somewhat of a negative >>>>>impact >>>>>>>on the surrounding community and does what they >>can >>>>>to >>>>>>>give back to the community, whether the reasons >>are >>>>>>>selfish or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This is not the place to solve waste management >>>>>>>issues, but whether the paddling community >accepts >>>>>>>sponsorship from a landfill or not will not >affect >>>>>the >>>>>>>fact that the landfill is there...and is >>>>>>>necessary...and is not going away under the >>current >>>>>>>system as long as you keep putting trash on your >>>>>curb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But, on the other hand, if we take a standoffish >>>>>>>approach and make yet another enemy, then certain >>>>>>>community improvements may not happen and guess >>>>>>>what??? The landfill is still there and, most >>>>>>>importantly, WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE A VOICE AT >THE >>>>>>>TABLE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Would you have more success getting your point >>>>across >>>>>>>to a partner? Or an enemy? Anyone treated like >an >>>>>>>enemy will certainly not listen to our >>>>issues...which >>>>>>>is why the landfill is a good to keep as a >>partner. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That does not mean we should not question or even >>>>>>>challenge them if warranted...the key is how one >>>>goes >>>>>>>about it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If an organization has an event and some other >>>>>>>>organization sponsors it,then that act of >>>>>sponsorship >>>>>>>>gives, at least, the appearance of an alliance >>>>>>between >>>>>>>>the two organizations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Which is probably why you don't see hunting >rifle >>>>>>>>companies sponsoring PETA events. A paddling >club >>>& >>>>>a >>>>>>>>landfill seems just as unlikely of a >partnership. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But this is probably something best discussed at >>a >>>>>>>>meeting. The internet is a great place to >>exchange >>>>>>>>info, but a an absolutely awful place to have a >>>>>>>>discussion about real issues. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I don't recall anyone stating they supported >>>>>>>anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Just for confirmation sake. There's a group >>that >>>>>is >>>>>>>>>>turning the entire stoneycreek watershed into >a >>>>>>dump >>>>>>>>>>for New York/ New Jersey and we support them >>>>>>because >>>>>>>>>>they promise us rocks? >>>>>>>>>>How well do you think those dumps will hold up >>>at >>>>>>>>full >>>>>>>>>>capacity during a Johnstown flood?

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