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Date Posted: 7/11/04 20:20:35
Author: bridie
Subject: Re: alan rand anyone remember him
In reply to: BRIDIE 's message, "alan rand anyone remember him" on 27/10/04 16:44:50

upps john & les it was squadron 80 not 20 must get eyes tested hard to track cause they were origanaly 214 squadron based at laarbruch and they did fly canberras

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[> [> Re: alan rand anyone remember him -- LesB, 9/11/04 0:57:25

80 Sqn is much more plausible. This was one of the PR squadrons in 2TAF at the time and flew PR.7 Canberras.

Must apologise for a previous misdirection. I said I could find no Canberra crash in Germany at the date stated. This was because I was looking through a total list of Canberras for those that had crashed (there were 925 UK built Canberras) and I missed one. Sorry. Focusing on 80 Sqn gave me the Canberra type, PR.7, which also gave me a much shorter list to search.

The Canberra your Alan was in was WT526, a PR.7 with 80Sqn. This aircraft suffered a tailplane actuator failure when flying a low-level PR navigation exercise (NAVEX) near Gescher, Germany on the morning of 20 Feb 1958. Both crew were lost.

Low-level navex's were typically carried out at an altitude of 250-300 ft with speeds of around 300 knots. Such flying required not only skill but intense concentration by both pilot and nav. At those speeds, and particularly at those altitudes, when something goes wrong there is no time to do anything about it, not even time to eject - in any aircraft - the unforgiving ground is a scant second or two away.

I'm sorry I can't give any further personal detail about Alan. I will try to find out more if I can.

LesB


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[> [> [> Re: alan rand anyone remember him -- John Cooper, 9/11/04 8:46:20

Thanks Les that seems to answer Bridies question.

Bridie I still think you ought to get some further details from the AHB, to answer fully why the accident occurred.
Cheers
John


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[> [> [> Re: alan rand anyone remember him -- bridie, 9/11/04 15:57:50

thanks les what you say now adds up too. you asked where i got info from well i have the mod letters dated 1958 dont say alot but with this and the xmas card from alan, has got me this far and i do hope we have gained somethink from this search it would be nice to see a mention of him on your web page now that we have a few more facts.the internet has to be one of mans great wonders of the world.


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