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Date Posted: 10:48:18 05/05/08 Mon
Author: Cathy
Subject: Tonya - ITA with you that while Todd is too extreme, Blair is way too casual. They have both been scary in their reactions and both need to come out of their fog.
In reply to: tonya 's message, "I think it would be natural for parents in Todd and Blair's situation to blame each other. They are both scared for Starr and afraid they will never see her again. Todd went to far by accusing Cole of rape and by putting such tight restrains on Starr.. and even if he thought he was doing what was right for his family, Starr and Cole would have never ended up in bed that night if he had really paid attention to Starr's feelings about moving to Hawaii and Cole. But by the same token Blair is way too casual about it. Todd is overacting, but in my opinion Blair is under reacting." on 08:56:31 05/05/08 Mon


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[> [> Might I add too that most of all, Sole needs to come out of THEIR fog and accept some responsibility for the actions THEY CHOSE! -- Cathy, 10:49:50 05/05/08 Mon


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[> [> [> I love Blair, but STFU!!! Stop blaming Todd for Starr's stupidity. Starr didn't have to run away- she is being selfish and immature. I hate that everyone is blaiming Todd for Starr's actions. My gosh, but the blame where it belongs on Starr and Cole. Stop blaiming Todd. Totally on team Todd!!!! -- Heather, 12:44:35 05/05/08 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Definitely Todd is to blame for some of it. But SO IS BLAIR! And certainly, SO IS SOLE! I really cannot stand how the others involved in this mess are putting all the blame on Todd. Not right. Just not right. I can't imagine Kassie would agree that this is all Todd's fault and that Blair and Sole bear no responsibility and reacted 100% appropriately. -- Cathy, 12:46:25 05/05/08 Mon


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[> [> [> [> You got that right Heather, she should feel like a fool when she find out the truth. I'm tire of Blair blaming Todd for everything and running to John. I'm also tire of them living with Dorain. If they are going to be a family then it's time they move out of Dorian's house. -- DaJ, 16:11:45 05/05/08 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Being Blantantly Blairian, I am on Team Blair. Starr was in prison for almost two months in her own home, her bedroom door didn't even have a handle. Toss went on a power trip. Its like Blair said yesterday, she did not agree with Starr's choices, but she understands. Toss had to STFU yesterday not Blair with his delusions of Starr being raped and kidnapped by Cole. Toss is in his own little world. The only thing I did not agree with was when she told Toss that he saw himself&marty when he walked in on Starr&Cole that night.. I hope Dorian and Blair kicks him out of Creme Brulee. -- lucy, 06:17:17 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> If she was so against him she should have stopped him on day one, not after the fact that Starr ran away. So blaming him for Starr running away is not the answer. And I hope they throw him out because I'm tire of looking at him living in la brulee too. If Blair is going to act like a married woman she need to get her own home and move out of Dorian's. -- DaJ, 10:25:28 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Blair admitted yesterday that she shares in the blame of Starr running away. She said she should have reigning Toss in. Because she admitted that its her job as his wife. Blair is being an adult in all this whereas Toss is acting like a child. I think Dorian and Blair are all going to put the kids first now so if Toss does not shape up, Dorian&Blair will ship him out for the sake of the kids. -- lucy, 13:16:16 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Some of what Blair says is right, but when she does things like tell Starr "you did nothing wrong" and refer to Sole's situation as "making love" she looks like an idiot. Todd looks like an idiot indeed but sadly, so does Blair - in a different way. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad she told Todd where the dog died, but she also needs to look at herself and her own parenting style. -- Cathy, 13:29:34 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think we have to wait to see how Blair reacts to the truth about that night. I do not think she will become a delusional maniac like Toss, but she will make Starr realizes that choices has consequences. Blair has never said she agreed with Starr's choice to have sex with Cole. She has only said that she understands why Starr would want to have sex with her first love of 2 years. Blair understands, but I still think she will go off the handle like Dorian did yesterday and like Dorian, in the end, she will be rational and supportive. -- lucy, 13:46:10 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I hope so, lucy. I really do hope that Blair is jolted when she finds out that Starr lied to her and really did have sex -- and unprotected sex at that -- at 16 years old. I swear, if Blair remains blase about it once she finds out I will not be happy. I don't want to hear her telling Starr that it was ok to "make love" with the boy she loves. Not at that age. -- Cathy, 14:25:03 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I really do NOT want to see Blair let Starr off the hook. Starr needs to be held accountable for her actions & lies throughout this situation. Blair needs to lay down the law with Starr. If Starr is old enough to engage in sex, she needs to face the consequences & responsibilities it entails. Blair also needs to tell Todd that he was correct in questioning what happened. -- LH, 08:45:24 05/13/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Also, you're right in that Blair has never said she agreed with the sex (or "almost sex" as far as she knows), but she did say other things that suggests she thinks it's not a big deal. She told Starr, "you didn't do anything wrong, no matter what happened that night." I just can't get with that line of thinking. Cause I think Sole more certainly did do something wrong. -- Cathy, 14:27:51 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> sorry - that should say they MOST certainly did do something wrong. -- Cathy, 14:29:10 05/06/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> IA, Cathy. Blair has not been holding Starr responsible for her actions here. That really bothers me. Todd's actions might be a bit heavy-handed here at times, but at least he has been making S&C owe up to their actions. T&B need to be more in sync on this situation. It will be very interesting when all is revealed. -- LH, 08:59:38 05/13/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd has been making S&C owe up to their actions?! Seriously?? His psycho to the tenth degree behvaior is what made S&C have sex in the first place. Please do not imply that Todd is a better parent than Blair is in this mess because I strongly disagree. Todd is the driving force behind the current problems not Blair. -- Brooke, 10:31:03 05/13/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Disagree. Todd did not go temporarily "psycho" unitl AFTER Todd found S&C having sex!! Todd wanted to move the family to Hawaii to get free of Ramsey & bad memories. He was totally rational & within bounds. It was an out-of-the-blue suggestion, but Todd was totally in control of himself. His behavior labeled as "psycho" by some is open to interpretation. I think Todd was acting out of concern for Starr & their family (click)..... -- LH, 11:19:18 05/15/08 Thu

Yes, his tactics have been over the top & heavy-handed at times, but not psycho--imo. He loves Starr, Blair, the kids--their family, and does not want to see them hurt.

Starr's actions have had serious consequences for everyone involved. She needs to take responsibility & TnB need to do it TOGETHER as a couple & family!!


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