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Date Posted: Friday, January 27, 02:44:39pm
Author: Nell
Subject: That was an interesting thread, thanks for the link (r)
In reply to: swatkat 's message, "spammityspam (or, one last thing before i sleep)" on Friday, January 27, 11:08:51am

though I gotta say, not nearly enough of the people on the thread read/watch war novels/movies - made in the US - though they are far better versed in comic books and superheros than I ever will be!

The predominate theme of most of the classic war movies/novels, especially the most enduring ones, tend to have is that almost everyone dies. There are even cliches about the order in which they die.

Rural boy pulls out pic of hometown girl. Dead next scene.

Loud boisterous platoon memeber is OOC kind to a random small child/kitten/puppy/horse/plant. Dead next scene.

Tough sergent/colonel/lt. whomever who gets everyone through, up until the final scene when - you guessed it - he dies. Usually cursing the 'desk jockies' who sent him to his near meaningless death.

Yes - there are many war films that violate these conventions! but they can only be violated *because* they are already common conventions.

War films are an interesting genre too when it comes to the concept of hero they employ - which tends to be much closer to the one Jaybee was talking about. Ordinary people pushed outside their normal bounds who do something they could have chosen not to do, to save someone else/thing/object that matters to them and to the larger group of people to whom they are loyal.

I've always thought LFN was much closer to war films than to comic books, despite "teflon Michael", in its sensibility.

As with the classic 'war movies' the heroic things the LFN characters did tended to not only be unrewarded - but even punished. Michael frantically trying to figure out how to get the children out of the embassy building robo!Nikita was about to blow up, Nikita scrambling madly around trying to find the gas canisters before the train mows her down, Angie running out to draw fire so that Michael and Nikita can escape...

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