[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1234[5]678910 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: Saturday, February 11, 09:01:43am
Author: Nell
Subject: Drifting back -
In reply to: JayBee 's message, "Hmm. Well. OK. (r)" on Wednesday, February 01, 09:50:25pm

I've been mulling this, slowly, and I don't think I can be articulate enough about it (yet), except to say that I think sex makes the people involved vulnerable in ways that no other activity does - and the use of "valentine" operatives and missions - in LFN an in so many other (RL?) stories (honey-trap, anyone?) suggests that, even if untrue, my perception is shared by huge numbers of people.

In that vulnerablility - people do and say things that they would not do or say (or feel?) in any other circumstance. There are ways to frame sex to limit that vulnerability - on the part of one or all parties - sex workers, for example, are able to frame their professional lives in a way that sex "on the job" functions differently that sex in their RLs. Where, at least in documentaries and fiction, it seems to function pretty much in the same messy emotional way for them as for everyone else.

So - in the case, for example, of Michael and Elena, my gut feeling is that, had she ever learned the truth, she would be reeling not from one big lie that encompases all the other smaller lies, but from (at least) two, related, lies of near equal intensity.

Section, when they wanted to, often took strategic and tactical advantages from the power of the second lie - the "I never loved you in the way my body suggested I did" lie. (Which was the lie, is of course, situational.....).

So - Section, as an entitity - had, in my view anyway, a built in appreciation for the power of adultery (read as sexual betrayal here, in a world in which legal marriage is all fictive), and exploited that at every opportunity. In that environment, where sexual fidelity is all but impossible - I think that fidelity, sexual and otherwise, ironically, took on even greater importance.

So - I was thinking about adultery in relationship to Section as both a thing in itself, and also a metaphor for the whole place - in which no promise can ever be taken as fully sincere or possible to honor.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.