| Subject: I say pitter, you say patter |
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Date Posted: 10/ 9/04 4:03:53pm
In reply to:
pjk
's message, "Re: not so Foreign Policy"" on 10/ 8/04 12:31:34pm
You say puppet, I say semantic dispute with inevitable semantic discord. You say like Vietnman I say not like Vietnam (I can only go on this point in time, ie., not into the whole elaboration and relativism created by hobbyist historians) where VC conducted a very well organized ‘Peoples war’ with strength and resourcefulness….as per example, I don’t yet see how killing 35 children has beholden the insurgencies i.e. terrorists, to the majority of Iraqis’….perhaps it will in time. You say Allawi single digit approval I say cite your source otherwise I have to guess its from June 2004 in Counter-currents where they themselves cite no poll and I am then left to only counter with a poll from the same time period which you will inevitably counter as ‘decontexualized” and full of lies because it was paid for by Bremer and associ of the Coalition Provisional Authority: The new government has an 80-percent approval rating among Iraqis, 73 percent of whom approve of Allawi, and 84 percent of whom approve of Yawar. The poll was based on more than 1,000 face-to-face interviews conducted June 9-19 in six major cities that reflect the diverse communities -- Baghdad, Basrah, Mosul, Diwaniyah, Hilla and Baqubah.
You say so few Iraqis (police) trained in the last 18 months I say do you understand the context of their previous oppression?
I can see that anyone who is angrily opposed to the Iraq war and to Bush would disagree with any action supported by the Bush administration . (this of course includes Allawi…..yet, I can’t imagine the benefit or realization of a squeaky clean, non- politically affiliated persona even existing in this context….who would he/ she be? Who would Kerry have selected?
is it fruitful to discuss in myopia? I don’t think there would ever be any satori that I could produce for an individual who is and has been angrily opposed to Bush……
As far as the Kerry focus on leaving, I sense it in statements like “within four months of my administration we will begin to bring troops home” (perhaps he is talking about troop rotation?) His incessant focus on Bin Laden as the ‘president’ of terrorism is to me, in my naïve view, as misplaced as is his obsession with a ‘coalition” of countries who had obvious other interests regarding Iraq. As far as abandonment, in my naïve view I can only restate my feelings: >If we think terrorism has placed us in a tremulous >state now...., if we are demoralized by the number of>Iraqis killed in the last several months....what does>the future hold if we abandon?
pa
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