| Subject: The ZERO Mystery Unveiled |
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Date Posted: 09:52:02 04/26/02 Fri
Dear Cassandra and all;
As difficult as I have been, telling you what I know, and all that ego stuff, I do appreciate you,(all), where you are and what your doing, and even your answer to the question Both! There are not many traditions that would answer both. And that brings me to the point.
I have a dear friend that is associated with Saniel and his teaching program. She and I talk about this stuff, and so I thought I would come over to the message board and snoop. The first thing I would be on the lookout for is Advaitists. Why, because I was one for a long time after my first big trancscendent experience that took away my good sense. That is why I was not very gracious when I heard that you have no “things” and Art has no “body”. I have seen first hand the needless loss of our so precious human experience, because someone tells you that your true nature is detached consciousness, and nothing else is real. (By the way Kate, I am really into matter and consciousness, and that is why I don't fit well. I believe our reality is Both. I see the glass completely full and completely empty....meaning everything has both the emptiness of conscoiusness, and the "stuffness" of matter at the same time!)... also, thanks for the Zen boyfriends, I thoght that was great.
I wonder how many teacher/student spiritual programs there are available? There must be thousands. And of those, how many would express our true Divine being and relative relationship with the world? Excluding Saniels work, I would say none, and if I was absolutely sure about Saniel, I would not be here snooping around.
As for me, I have surrendered once, completely, to a state of consciousness. I surrendered to the Self, joyously, fully. At the time, it seemed to me to be the “ultimate reality”. At the time it seemed so right, so pure and undeniably the transcendence we all seek. I got burned. It was dissociation. Now, I see that state as aberrant, subjectively captivating, but not the truth, other than as it is used to step back into and embrace your dualistic ego state. Like a mountain peak, a vantage point to find your location, but not somewhere you would want to live.
If you offered me that state now, I would say I do not want it. It is an unreal extreme, the opposite of believing everything is material. Put these two states together however, and you have something, or kind of something. That’s where I am staying.
I have personally come to these conclusions, facing criticism from every spiritual group I have ever been associated with.
I see that I can never avoid my own responsibility in spiritual matters.
ZERO.
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