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Subject: Re: Thinking about our conversation, I fell into my heart


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Kyla
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Date Posted: 07:52:00 07/28/01 Sat
In reply to: Ben 's message, "Re: Thinking about our conversation, I fell into my heart" on 22:18:17 07/27/01 Fri

This feels good to me, Ben, like we are now approaching a meeting place, which is what i want from this dialog.

In representing level 0, I am first of all in a place that does not feel at choice. I suspect it is a view of my lead safe, actually. There is a whole-Being demand of me that i consistently include and stand for the inclusion of those aspects of human experience that level0 is a short hand term for. And in order to actually do that I must not be at the effect of that level. i must be strong enough to preserve awareness of the full sweep of What can hold it in a freeing embrace. A tall order and no doubt a contradiction in terms. But that's how I see it. If I am simply at the effect of level 0, then I am embedded in it and have no more hope than that level allows. Which is 0.

I do agree that Awakening is not a function of the mind, of course. And I do, believe it or not, also enjoy grooving in the peace and quiet and the blessed innocence of matter. And that too is essential. And yes, it is certain that our histories and current orientations differ greatly. And I am not asking you to join me on my path. What i am wanting may be impossible but that too is part of my doom, my charge in Being, or my error, if it be that. I want us to discover how both these so very different orientations are in fact linked, and both essential voices within Onlyness. By actually being able to perceive each other there.

I also want to apologize if I have been disrespectful toward your orientation. It's a bad habit. And i am pretty sure that since i am just beginning to learn how to speak these things, i am clumsy and full of flaws.
Thank you once again for staying with this conversation. Despite the overly mental and necessarily disembodied qualities of this tricky medium!

And you are exactly who i have needed to converse with about the mind! Because of the very differences between us. I am willing to let you off the hook if this is not a conversation you find to be engaging. You have already given me so much. Each time i let myself respond to your latest, i have a reaction of fear that i have exposed too much or that i have badly misunderstood you, or in some way violated the spirit of this forum. Which is so very inclusive of all of us. Which is exactly what stimulates me to speak up here, after all.

with gratitude, love*K

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