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Subject: Re: Satan as a post exilic invention? Think again.


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CJ
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Date Posted: 13:46:28 11/15/04 Mon
In reply to: stan 's message, "Satan as a post exilic invention? Think again." on 04:06:31 11/15/04 Mon
 >"Satan" occurs 22 times in preexilic books and 9 times
>in postexilic books of the OT. The most intimate
>portrayal of Satan in the OT (if not the whole Bible)
>appears in Job. In the first 2 chapters of Job we may
>read dialogue between him and Jehovah. Job was written
>some 1,000 years before the Babylonian exile. Also,
>Job is considered by the majority of scholars (not
>just Christian one's whom you may consider biased in
>some way, but non-Christian scholars also) to be the
>oldest book in the Bible.
>
>"Demon" occurs 5 times in the Old Testament. All
>ccurrences are preexilic. Genesis 6 even describes how
>demons materialized human bodies to have illicit
>relations with females. This occurred at least 2,000
>years before the Babylonian exile and was written some
>1,000 years before the Babylonian exile.
>
>It should also be noted that sometimes angels/demons
>are referred to as "sons of the true God" in the Bible
>so there is additional information as to the
>pre-exilic appearances of Satan in the Bible.
>
>The book of Zechariah is the only main postexilic book
>of the OT that deals extensively with angels and
>Satan, it being similar in many ways to the Revelation
>of John.
>
>What are we therefore to conclude from all of this?
>That the evidence shows that Satan was not a post
>exilic adaptation taken from the Jewish Babylonian
>captivity because the Jews already had an awareness of
>Satan, demons, and angels well before this.


Again the word considered but no one knows for sure. The term satan is used many times in the bible however not to mean any one being in particular until job when he or she becomes more defined. I say she because the jews explained ashra as satan as well. No one said there were no mention of demons in the bible but the word satan in the old testament meant obstructing angel sent from god for those who turned their back on him. Theology 101. So again perhaps research before forsaking but it is good to see passion. No one debated the age of job however it can not be proved how old it is thus it is better suited to make ponderances to meet needs of beliefs.
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