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Subject: Re: Paganism


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Date Posted: 14:12:08 11/15/04 Mon
In reply to: kev 's message, "Re: Paganism" on 12:02:43 11/15/04 Mon

>never said this ite accused pagans of satanic worship
>or the such, in fact that was one of the reasons why i
>complimented the page, and i am very impressed by the
>way that you handled my post, very impressed, now then
>might i enquire as to what branches of occultism you
>were into at the time, or were you just going along
>with a crowd so to speak, you no you think that
>paganism, wicca completely ignore jesus christ, god
>and such like and you may or may not think that
>christianity is the one true way, hey each to there
>own, personally i dont care as long as if the facts
>are right,
>btw just so there's no confusion, i am not out to
>convert people,
>also you talk about sin in your post, a sin to be
>caught up by something that you believe to be right, a
>sin to be in a ritual,
>tell me why do you think mary magdelin was taken up by
>jesus? no i'm not sugesting anything lewd, but surely
>such a sinfull woman would have found no refuge in the
>house of "god " if she was so sinful in being a whore,
>or was she just living
>and why does everyone have to go through a priest at
>church to be able to talk to god, i mean yes they are
>allowed to pray are they not, but why arnt they
>allowed to do it themselves???
>now then lets see, why is it that there is no record
>of jesus' gospel, and why is it that the romans
>decided to kill him?? and yet now he is their
>saviour?? irony no, i think also that the bible needs
>to be read very very carefully, and the best person to
>do this would be a child that has not been influenced
>by any one at all, you say the spirits must of been
>having a laugh at you, would god really do such a
>thing and why do you think of god as a seperate
>entity, if all things have a soul then surely they are
>not apart of god because if that were the case then
>god is a controler who likes power which i dont
>believe, everyone is a part of god and so to say that
>paganism is slightly misguided is to say that god is
>slightly misguided, you may or may not have said that
>and i include that because it appears that political
>correct ness is needed here as expressed above, now
>then christianity isnt as estranged to paganism as you
>think and to be honest while you may or may not think
>that the main aim is to be good and pure of heart,
>whilst doing this you put belief in the devil,
>although not mentioned, and in doing so in your own
>reality you create him, now this is fine yeah if you
>wanna do that, you as a figure of speech in a
>generalised sense, but then why is it that god has an
>equal of such enormity that you have this battle and
>you know they both come from the same thing, now take
>god up a level and look at it, you might think physics
>is total rubbish and god is the answer well i say this
>god is the answer but physics is the explanation,
>physics knows very little of what there is to know,
>but its getting there,
>
>now then rituals, .........
>well all i can say is that rituals to me are very very
>very enjoyable basicly because it is one way of
>raising energy to direct out, and you say can spirit
>be trusted, well can you trust yourself for you are a
>spirit, but aside from rituals you can use this energy
>as you will, and you dont need any fancy rituals, all
>you need is your mind because after all your physical
>body is jut a projection onto this plane, your mind is
>the key so instead of letting people think for you
>think for yourself take what you will and please go
>with instinct,
>and read some literature pleasre also, after all what
>is the bible, is it really a first hand account, or
>what,
>i'll let you ponder and let you on your way and may
>have the guidance of all that is bright
>you are your own agent, nobody needs a big boss above
>them,
>and the relevance well look at it read it then read it
>some more then go to sleep and forget about it, then
>carry on with love in your heart knowing you yourself
>are your own person not being controlled by anyone,
>have fun with love and sin isnt exactly what it
>appears as isnt everything else, besides if its a sin
>to love other people in a physical way then you stand
>no chnace in loving god because you cant apreciate.
>goodbye
>xxxxxxxxxxx


May I point out that one of the reasons for christianity being so close to paganism is when they were converting people they bent the beliefs to their needs so that the pagans would accept the religion easier and not feel like they were being forced into anything. Christmas for example perhaps the biggest example. Jesus was not born in December in fact he was born I believe in January, i forget i would have to look that up again on some old books. Christmas was a pagan holiday falling on December 22nd celebrating the new God's birth. Begining another circle of life. Forgive me I'm going to be short I am very tired. Just one example.

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