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Date Posted: 15:40:16 08/08/05 Mon
Author: 93curr
Author Host/IP: 206.130.170.11
Subject: Magic(k) is always a shortcut
In reply to: Rosie 's message, "Magic in Buffyverse" on 13:54:22 08/08/05 Mon

and, in the Buffyverse, tends to take the form of a prayer.

"oh mighty Hecate, let thy will be done. now, what I want your will to be is....."

and prayers tend to accumulate, like debts. they're borrowed power. if you're requesting power from some supernatural force, there's gonna be a price to pay. like the opening scene of 'The Godfather.'

the difference with Willow as season six progressed is that she went from calling upon an outside force to "cheat" the laws of nature to turning herself into a conduit. that's a lot of power to have to control. (note that in 'Him' she was back to requesting power from an outside source again.) not a big concern at the end of s6, when she was basically planning on using the magick to commit suicide, on an exaggerated scale. but the end of s7 required her to funnel the demonic energy of the Hellmouth right through herself (probably a bit more than Rack had) to activate the scythe. again, she (metaphorically) BECAME a goddess, rather than paying hommage to one.

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[> [> Re: Magic(k) is always a shortcut -- chuckit25, 17:12:20 08/08/05 Mon [1] (65.31.232.191)

hmm now that's the part that the joining of Buffy's slayer (spirit) to seed the potentials with the birthing of full fledged human slayer and thus Willow was the mother and a goddess, as is how the natural order is restored--good and evil in one being. And, BTW, talk about warning the tadpoles, another magic birth. Buffy's spirit child is made of dark energy (nature) and made material through her blood to be the key to the universe, Buffy's despairing desire to not be alone, to be "normal" the key to mom Joyce's heart and to be loved and fully love.

Cordy on ATS became mystically pregnant three times and Darla birthed Angel's soul and the materiel of a human life made of his despair to have the key to his own universe, the second chance as a human innocent. And Fred birthed Illyria. All main female characters birthed someone, even Dru made William a vampire. Virginnia refused to dabble in magic, for example, and didn't have any kids, Gwen used a prophylactic.


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[> [> Re: Magic(k) is always a shortcut -- Rosie, 17:55:43 08/08/05 Mon [1] (170.97.167.60)

"and, in the Buffyverse, tends to take the form of a prayer.

"oh mighty Hecate, let thy will be done. now, what I want your will to be is....."

and prayers tend to accumulate, like debts. they're borrowed power. if you're requesting power from some supernatural force, there's gonna be a price to pay. like the opening scene of 'The Godfather.'"

Don't Wiccans view "spells" as some kind of prayer, anyway?


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[> [> [> Re: Magic(k) is always a shortcut -- Rosie, 17:58:05 08/08/05 Mon [1] (170.97.167.60)

Isn't there is a price or consequence - whether good or bad - for just about every choice or action you make in life, anyway?


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