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Date Posted: 17:21:35 08/30/03 Sat
Author: nadia
Subject: Thanks for the title of the booK!
In reply to: QUITTNER 's message, "Re: Where is the search for the truth gone? Does anyone really care?" on 12:21:24 08/28/03 Thu

Human beings have the habit of mixing up reality with finction...we still do it and you can see it when we hear the news.... everybody has their version of the truth, but sometimes seems difficult to get only the real facts! WE are likely to add our personal touch when we report or tell a story, an of curse, we can imagine how much stuff has been added to the real events in the ancients books....the real story becomes mithology and people are turned into heavenly figures or super heros...new religions are borne and so on.... But I know there are some sort of real and human toching stories under the huge amount of added magic and supernatural embellishments. I wish I could get directly to the facts and to the real documentation of our past history, way of living and believes...for example, I wish I could access to the teachings of Jesus without the pollution added to make the stories more dramatic (with the intent to create a new branch of religion)... I admire This Human Being of elevated spirituality, who tried so hard to teach us a better way of living our life....he was trying to share his knowledge and wisdom with us, but using stories as tools to get down to our level of understanding...He knew the pitfall of the human beings, he knew their weakness, He wanted to teach us what he had learned....he wanted us to be better human beings, to have a higher soul....etc.....He was offering his guidance to those who needed it, (those who already know what is right and wrong do no need his preaching, but can still appreciate it)....but for some people, it is essential that you treat them as children: If you do this then God gets upset and you may go to hell! If you tell them the plain truth they are not ready to appreciate, understand, and treasure it. It is like giving perls to pigs...so you have to give them what they understand! If I tell you it is not right to kill another human being, it is not right to steal, and so on....do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you....Who cares if it is just wrong? But if I tell you that you go to hell and you upset God, you may not do it out of fear, but at least it works! So, all these people (the magiority in the all world) if they would realize that there is no punishment, but just destruction of human race and coplete caos by not observing those rules, would they care at all? If they don't even care now, can we imagin how it would be? But, if I were God, and I know you do not do the bad things just because you like to go to paradise somaday, and you are afraid of my punishment, I would not like you very much....Human beings are like kids, if you do this I'll give you a candy, but if you do not give the candy, the kid is not interested in doing what is right, unless it is convenient for him....Most of us are just like little children looking for our candies, and we do not do certain bed things because our parents get upset, mad, and then they punish us! PUNISHMENT, REWARDS...that is what many people understand and need because they souls are still immature and they cannot perceive the magnetude of God... How can you possible use a different approach! You have to use what is familiar to us, what we can understand....Once you have a chance to access the spiritual world, and get close to the immense grandiosity of our Creator, you realize we are still at square one....we still have a long way to go....so much to learn.....we are wasting so much time.....we all have a common path to go trough to elevate our souls, it is inside of us, no matter what religion or what believe, love is inside all of us, if we learn to cultivate it and let it grow, it will show us the way, it will guide us, it will bright up our dark nights, it will bring us together.
Can we imagine? If we all would become loving, tolerant, understanding toward one another, the whole world would turn into a fantastic paradise! No more selfishness, greed, hate, resentments, no more bad feelings....
Not even the (man made) punishment from God or His (man made) rewards can school most of the human beings....Our dark side is aways ready to take over....God gave us everyting we need to live our lives, we are the ones who make our hells and our paradises, he gave us the world, he gave us life, now we have learn to live in it and with it! Why do we always involve Him in our man made stories? Why do we turn Him into a human being and make him think and act like one? He belongs to the highest level of purity, life and love, and there is no way that anybody or any religion can make me believe that God said to fight holy wars, to kill his children, to destroy his creations, to hate those who have different beliefs and so on...THERE IS ABLOSUTELY NO WAY THAT I WILL EVER BELIEVE THAT OUR GOD HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THESE LOW HUMAN MATTERS.......



>I think I have seen a similar post by you on another
>forum. Thanks for mentioning there the "Abraham" book
>by Bruce S. Feiler (2002).
>..... I recently finished reading an interesting book
>that reads like a detective story, a record of a
>search in the here and now for the tomb of the mother
>of Jesus, despite the fact that some denominations of
>Christianity believe that there can't be such a tomb
>because Mary was taken up bodily into heaven.
>..... The book is by Graham Phillips, its title is
>"The Marian Conspiracy, The Hidden Truth about the
>Holy Grail, the Real Father of Christ and the tomb of
>the Virgin Mary. It was published in 2000 by Sidgwick
>& Jackson.

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