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Date Posted: Saturday, April 23, 01:54:52pm
Author: AurraSing
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 66.183.77.136
Subject: New Who tonight!!

Which begs the question, are we going to find out this season who the lovely River Song murdered?? Will Amy be a little less torn between the two men in her life? Will there be fish fingers and custard on the menu?

Can't hardly wait...

;-)

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[> *picks up jaw from floor* -- AS, Sunday, April 24, 12:54:28am (NoHost/66.183.77.136)

Didn't expect that!!!


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[> I really liked it ! -- Chani *spoilers*, Sunday, April 24, 09:28:46am (81-65-158-43.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.158.43)

Lots of action, a daring season debut (OMG they killed the Doctor and gave him Viking funeral!), clever plot (as much as we can understand it so far) with tragic undertones (the Doctor's death, River's fate), enjoyable dialogues ("Legs, Nose, Mrs Robinson!" ; "You were my second choice for president"hee!), endearing characters (how adorable is Rory really?! And Amy, she's too cute for words!).

I've never been a 'shipper when it comes to Doctor Who but for the first time I see the appeal of Eleven/River Song. Kuddos to Moffat for pulling off that one! The idea of his remembering her less and less as she gets to know him more and more was quite touching and romantic. And what a nice callback to "Silence in the Library"/"Forest of the Dead" when she said that some day he wouldn't have the faintiest idea of who she is and it will kill her.

Moffat knows to do epic love and uber-romanticism (Roman Rory guarding the box!) without indulging in pathos and sentimentality. Also the tragic Doctor/River love story reminded me a little bit bit of Dan Simmons' Hyperion and that girl who had entered the Labyrinth of Time and then has been suffering from Merlin syndrome, againg backwards and slowly forgetting while her father has to witness it (I cried a lot reading that at the time).

The new monsters are scary, not as scary as the Weeping Angels (to me they were the DW equivallent of the Gentlemen on Buffy) but still very frightening, and I loved how their power of making people forgetting them the minute they turn away echoed the "do not blink!" from "Blink".
It was good to see Mark Shepard again (last time it was in Dollhouse). Oh and TARDIS blue is a new kind of colour !!!!


I don't think that Amy is pregnant (but if she were, how cool would it be that her child turned out to be...River Song?). I think she suddenly believed at the end of the episode that she was pregnant (while she probably didn't think she was at the beginning hence her drinking wine during the picnic), because of the nausea (but we saw that River felt nauseous too, so it's the result of the Aliens' mojo when they make you forget them, I expect Rory to feel sick if he's still alive). Besides her revelation added a "nice" layer to twisty cliffhanger with her final shooting the astronaut, given that we saw a child within the spacesuit.

BTW the spaceman so called to my mind the "Silence of the Library" episode! And there was a child using a remote control then...and a Dr Moon! Again with the echoes with the 1969 event and when the Doctor talked about the silver moon in the sky during the picnic.

I love the way Moffat's mind works!!!!!

The Doctor obviously had a plan when he invited his four most-trusted friends, including himself. I liked his "don't play games on me" because he's the one who keeps playing games, even on himself. What a manipulative bastard! At the moment I can't see how Moffatt will undo The Doctor's permanent death though, or the fact that 200 years from now he has not regenerated yet –unless future!doctor lied about his age.


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[> [> I've got a theory ! -- Chani, Sunday, April 24, 05:02:56pm (81-65-158-43.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.158.43)

I think that the point isn't to save Future!Doctor from being shot to permanent death, but on the contrary to make it happen. Amy and River think they can save the Doctor by preventing the spaceman to do it, but they are wrong.

Perhaps the Doctor himself was in the space-suit and basically killed himself, or rather Future!Doctore, but probably saved himself doing it. There's a reason we didn't see the face of the killer, but we saw our Doctor trying e sapce suit on later in the episode...pointing out that it was cool.

I'm sure it's a clue.

I smell the time pardox here. There might have been actually not two but three doctors at the same time and the same place, and for the show to have a future, I bet that the Future!Doctor who died wasn't really the future self of our Doctor, or perhaps he was one of his possible future selves...but not the "right" one so he had to die and somehow Amy, Rory, River, our Doctor and Sam Sheppard are going to do something that will allow the mysterious man in the space suit to show up and do what must be done.

Alternate realities?

Argggg my head hurts!


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[> [> A wonderfully done episode, great comments!! -- AS, Sunday, April 24, 05:20:52pm (NoHost/66.183.77.136)

I swear that if you had come up to me a year ago and told me that my family would become huge fans of Doctor Who because of Eleven and his crew, I would have called you a liar. We sat there last night and had SO much fun watching this-I have to rewatch it again to catch all the dialogue we missed as we commented on what we were seeing!!

I love the Hyperion series, the parallels between River and Rachel/Moneta had never occurred to me before you mentioned it. The faith that Sol displayed and the faith the Doctor is asking for from his friends are both tests of their inner selves; the contradiction between what he tells them what they should do and what they want to do (prevent his future self's death,etc) are overwhelming to contemplate but your theory does have a lot going for it. Question is, is this their way of getting around the "set-in-stone" ending of the Doctor Who universe with the death of Twelve? If Eleven has died and not regenerated, are we looking at a new line of Doctors stemming from Eleven??

What law is Canton breaking with his marriage that he had to quit the FBI? J. Edgar's personal one?

I have to rewatch this soonest, so much happened and so much could happen....even really tacky naked painting,evidentally!!!


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[> [> [> You can buy it ! -- Chani, Monday, April 25, 09:59:08am (81-65-158-43.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.158.43)

http://store.qmxonline.com/My-Mysterious-Doctor-Poster_p_127.html


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[> [> [> [> LOL, that's kind of scary!! -- AS, Monday, April 25, 11:53:52am (NoHost/66.183.77.136)

Where would you hang something like that???


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[> [> [> [> [> *sigh* There are so many perverts in the world -- Chani, Monday, April 25, 12:06:19pm (81-65-158-43.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.158.43)

Also just saw this:

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/telefile/2011/04/an-american-who-how-american-s.php

I hope it will NEVER happen!!!

We don't need Americans to mess with The Doctor after what they have done to Life on Mars, do we?

Besides, I don't miss Joss when Moffat runs a show; ;- )


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