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Date Posted: Saturday, March 24, 03:32:48pm
Author: Chani
Author Host/IP: 212-198-158-160.rev.numericable.fr / 212.198.158.160
Subject: Can you guess how I found the latest FRINGE?

Mostly gagging-worthy.

The "true love" plot/talk was so heavy and schmalzty (but I have little tolerance for corniness)and the Observer's speech was painful to hear (Peter realising that he's been wrong needed to be dealt with but what an awful writing, especially the last part about how love brought Peter back!)– can anyone suggest them to follow the show-not-tell rule?

I blame the execution, the writing of the dialogues and the manipulative music, but I also have a problem with the message of Olivia giving up everything that was her for a fantasy love. It isn't a good message in my opinion (Olivia used to be a strong woman and now she's turning in a little girl...or Emma Bovary!), and the sacharine ending with Peter and Olivia, and the over-cliched choreography of their embrace ruined the whole thing for me.

Sadly, it was the exact opposite of the sublime and truly moving ending of "The Constant" in LOST. J.J Abrams got it right with Desmond and Penny and should have left the epic romantic love storyline alone after that, in my opinion.

Actually the worst sides of LOST are showing in FRINGE now.

They have lost their way and I'm more and more worried about the finale of the series.

Yet the episode had potential, the feak-of-the-week and his love potion wasn't very refreshing but still a good attempt at updating the myth of Tristan and Yseult.

BTW the shot of the two corpses whose hands were touching wasn't so bad and called to the mind the plants that grew on Tristan and Yseult's grave, intertwining their branches. Show not tell!

Also, little moments of grace thanks to Lincoln and Nina.

And the Walter scenes were good. Naughty Walter who went beaver hunting in the 70's! ;- )

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[> Mostly agree..... but you know you saw it coming.... -- Lij, Sunday, March 25, 11:45:02am (adsl-108-67-91-238.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/108.67.91.238)

A lot of people were pissed September was the one who spilled the beans as well as the way he did it.

I'm not so peaved. Peter was the one who had to bring back September via the beacon. Peter didn't get his real answer when in September's mind. It was only natural that September had to be the one who broke the news to him. And it is September who has come to have feelings for his "lab rats" - the Fringe team.

It was afterall a natural progression.... I just think they should not have had them get together so easily. It should have ended without them meeting up at the end. Something should have happen to one of them and I think it should have been Peter.

With September back we may see more conflict among the Observers.

I'm fairly sure that the show will not be renewed. The numbers on it were bad in the US. There was a Twitter fest for FRINGE, however, on Friday and the hash-tag trended in the US even higher than tags for the NCAA College Basketball tourney that Fringe was up against. The tag even trended in Australia, France, Britian and of all places the Philippines. So who knows what will happen.

Walter was lovely!

Astrid with nose enhancers not so much!

;-)

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[> [> Astrid is always cute ! -- Chani, Sunday, March 25, 02:21:31pm (212-198-158-160.rev.numericable.fr/212.198.158.160)

Even with nose enhancers.

If it isn't renewed, it might be for the best. I don't want to watch the show I once enjoyed become a train wreck.

I was so upset after the episode that I had to heal myself with a few episodes of Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles which was such a great Sci-fiction series.


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[> [> One more idea on this..... another way of looking at it. -- Lij, Monday, March 26, 07:26:43am (adsl-99-57-1-178.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/99.57.1.178)

Honestly, I found it ironic but still quite fitting that the unemotional scientist/Observer is the one who was the one that came to understand and explain to Peter for which I think Peter was hoping. Peter has been fighting his feelings, his heart, these last few episodes and he was taking that fight to flight by removing himself from Olivia's presence in this episode. Peter was trying to be that 'better man than his father.' And Walter in his most logical mode approved of what Peter was doing by removing himself from the temptation of Olivia.

But in fact look what Walter did in respect to his own wife and love. He withdrew to his lab and did not give Elizabeth the attention she needed. Walter, in effect, fled from his love; much as what Peter was doing by going to New York - fleeing the presence of Olivia. Walter was wrong. Peter was not being the better man in that decision; the better man would follow his heart.
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