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Date Posted: 22:34:14 05/03/03 Sat
Author: DriftMaker
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The new minies
In reply to: Irulan Corrino-Atreides 's message, "Yet another view on the tired subjects of Sarandon and future mini's" on 21:46:11 05/02/03 Fri

I have to agree with IDAHO's reply. The sex part of HoD and CD is not going to be a problem. This is 2003, not 1953. Sex is mainstream. As much as I hate the fact that sex is the only thing on which some people base their choices in television viewing, it is still a very big part of modern society. It's not HBO, so they can't show total nudity and graphic sex, but they can get darn close. What do you think they do in those poor excuses for entertainment called soap operas? (No offense to those who like them, I'm just the cynic of cynical people.) The problem will be something other than the sexual content.

I must also respectfully disagree with Irulan Corrino-Atreides� comment about HoD and CD having less feeling than the first three novels. After I finished reading the entire series, I decided that Heretics was my favorite of the six novels. I found it to be very exciting to have a fresh set of characters, settings and especially the new technologies. In my opinion, Duncan Idaho is just the right amount of original-Dune-nostalgia needed in the final novels. I feel that Muad'dib and friends have contributed all they could to the story. Bringing them back would indicate a lack of creativity. It would be nauseating to see the same things over and over again. Change is good. Remember Alia? She didn't like change and ended up paying a hefty price for it. (Yes, there were other factors, but I'm beginning to babble, so let's move on.)

The legacy left behind in the Atreides family does a superb job in keeping hold of the original plot lines. The motif of rebellion is kept in Siona and Sheeana, and Duncan still reminds the reader of the fanatical loyalty that the Atreides were so good at instilling in people. Also, the Bene Geserit make enough references to the original Dune to remind us of what happened then. There is very little need to bring anyone else back.

I think that one of the points of HoD taking place 10000 years after CoD is to remove the reader from the time of Dune. Being removed from it, they can now more closely examine the effects the Atreides had on the human race. It is part of Frank Herbert�s attempt at "exploring the myth of the messiah," as he states in the prologue to HoD. The only difference to Dune is that he is now examining the long-term effects of the messiah. "Dr. Frank" was an intellectual examining the workings of human kind. Bringing back another character for the sake of curing the readers' nostalgia was something that he probably didn't even consider. Again, Duncan Idaho was all he needed.

Essentially, as Irulan stated in her post, the original characters have been 'swept away by the whirlwind'; the whirlwind being the inescapable need for change. I believe there is a quote in one of the novels that states that one of the lessons of Leto II's Golden Path is that humanity needs to constantly change in order to survive. Muad'Dib was just the man who nudged the keystone enough so that Leto II could pull it out and allow those changes to come tumbling down on top of humanity. I really don't think that examining the aftermath of those changes has any less feeling associated with it. The screenwriters should have plenty of things to do in the future miniseries.

However, I do agree with you that they will have a tough time attempting to portray the Tyrant. Not so much with the actual graphics part, considering the many advancements in special effects using computer animation. The problem will be agreeing on a design for the God Emperor that is as accurate to the book as possible while still being realistic.

But remember that this is just one wee little human's opinion, so please don't take it personally.

Sincerely,

Drifty

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Replies:

Myth of the Messiah -- IDAHO, 01:26:25 05/04/03 Sun
- Confusion -- DriftMaker, 09:58:09 05/04/03 Sun