VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

05/18/25 16:07:49 [ Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, [3], 4 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 14:12:09 05/16/03 Fri
Author: theButterfly
Subject: specific examples, part 2
In reply to: theButterfly 's message, "specific examples of prequel problems" on 14:10:30 05/16/03 Fri

My next complaint has to do with the still-suits. I regret that I don't have page numbers for this, but I really don't feel like looking right now. I do remember very clearly, though, that still-suits cover the body almost completely, with just a slit's worth of space for the eyes. But, for some reason, the prequels find it necessary to describe still-suits of a much crappier design that leaves the whole face uncovered, with just a couple of tubes to shove up their nose, so that the Fremen wearing it is obliged to keep his mouth shut and breathe exclusively through his nose. I have no idea why they would do such a thing and I hope that the problem is just horrible description, or some other reason that I would misunderstand.

Besides that, the Fremen don't seem to be described correctly. Unfortunately, in order to be sure about this one, I would probably need to reread Dune (not that rereading Dune would be a bad thing; just that I don't feel like it right now). What seems to be the problem is that their day/night activities don't seem to be consistant. But, like I said, I would need to read about their daily activities in Dune again in order to compare.

Some other problems have to do with characters. If characters that are the same as characters in the original appear, then they must be consistant. If different characters appear, then they must fit well into the circumstances. Count Fenring had a very limited showing in Dune, but in that time, he managed to become one of the coolest characters ever. He's still very cool in the prequels, but he seems to lose entire layers of depth. Where is his exceedingly smooth double-talk? Where is his quiet and precise calculation? Shaddam IV apparently finds it prudent to spend all of the last book of this trilogy acting like a spoiled infant. How he could have acted this way and not have the Imperium wrested from his control several decades early I do not know. Then, of course, the brilliant twisted mentat Piter de Vries ... does what? ACTS LIKE A COMPLETE MORON; that's what. Does it really take a lot of intelligence to realize that you shouldn't tell a lie to the Emperor's truthsayer?

Other than that is just scattered ridiculousness: Abulurd's unerring nobility and decency; pointless melodrama; the authors' insistance on making Muad'dib a real god; I can't think of anything else right now.

I hope this shows why I feel the way I do.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
Forum timezone: GMT-7
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.