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Date Posted: 20:55:53 08/29/05 Mon
In reply to:
elsha
's message, "Re: On Reviews, Positive & Negative - From A Hippie" on 13:50:27 08/28/05 Sun
> I feel that Bootsie's problem is that he thinks he is just absolutely right and that there is no other choice. I've seen it before. Some people start a conversation by saying a "politically correct" statement. For example, "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". He says this many times but simply doesn't beleive it because when people disagreed with his opinion, he immediately tells them that they are wrong. My point was that why the hell does he care so much? Most of my friends don't like the Grateful Dead, they tell me the music sucks and they can't understand why I love it. But, they say it, they move on and I continue to listen and go to shows...case closed. He acts like he is threatened by the band. The dude is whacked. Fortunately, I live in Phila and travel to Brigantine often (His restaurant is there). I'll have to pay him a visit. Perhaps I should stand outside of his restauarant and "save" people from going in and buying a sandwich that has already been made before. How could he possibly copy a sandwich that has already been made? Sorry, I'm now rambling :)
I liked Cam's spirit but I have to agree with Rob on
>this. I was one who gave bootsie some feedback but the
>truth is, I was worried about the guy. Fact is, he has
>some issues I think with negativity. If his comments
>were decent, to the point etc then that would be fine.
>But anyone who can read and process information can
>see that Bootsie was attacking DSO and trying to turn
>people away from going to see them. He admitted as
>much saying he felt obligated to "enlighten" those who
>don't "know" any better. That crosses the line. If we
>wanted an anti-DSO teacher, well we could go search
>for one. As a counselor, I gave bootsie some good
>advice on how to work out some issues I detected in
>his writings including keeping a journal and writing
>down what bothers him, feelings of depression and low
>self esteem etc. The sad thing is he is still at it,
>now claiming he wants to talk to Rob more about this.
>Whats his goal there.......to get Rob to quit?! The
>whole thing is stupid and its sad to have to deal with
>such "educated" deadheads who know the music and scene
>"better" then the rest of us deadheads. If only we
>could get our heads straight and spend all our time
>with Bobby and Phil all would be right with the world
>huh Boostie? I am a true, peaceful head and all I have
>to say is, if you don't like DSO fine, don't go. After
>all, its getting crowded at shows as it is and dance
>space is getting harder and harder to maintain. Stay
>home so there is more dance space for those who dig
>good music. If thats you then welcome and enjoy that
>the "Music Never Stopped" which is what the Grateful
>sung and how they wanted it to be..........
>
>
>>I find it disturbing that fans of this band cannot
>>seem to accept that some people don't enjoy what we
>>do... while enthusiasm is appreciated by us all (in
>>the band), there are going to be times where the music
>>just doesn't reach out through us in particular to
>>certain individuals, and no matter what that person
>>thinks we should try to be more tollerant and perhaps
>>even turn an ear towards the nay-sayers in an effort
>>to further sharpen our act... the reviews page is not
>>a place where only good things can be said, it's a
>>place for people to exchange ideas and feelings...
>>
>>I didn't get the chance to read everything this guy
>>wrote because we were out on the road when the post
>>was put up, but I gotta say I'm almost MORE offended
>>that someone went and cut'n'pasted their blather over
>>and over and over just to try and blot this one
>>person's opinions out... that, my friends, is
>>CENCORSHIP... and it pains me greatly to think that we
>>as hippies are so close-minded and intollerant that we
>>can't allow such views to coexsist with our own.
>>That's not how the hippie elders taught ME to be when
>>I joined the family back in 1981, a punker with a
>>spiked wrist band who just wanted to fight with
>>everyone around me (and... uh... often LOSE said
>>engagement... heh heh).
>>
>>Why do we fear someone who hates what we're about so
>>much? And do we think that such opinions (expressed
>>where said opinions are supposed to belong - a REVIEW
>>PAGE) are going to bring us down, or ruin our buzz,
>>just because they exsist? Are we (as Dead or DSO fans)
>>really so insecure?
>>
>>I don't think so.
>>
>>I didn't get to read all of the nasty comments this
>>guy made but I heard about a few of them... and so
>>what? Plenty of people think I'm an asshole, and a lot
>>of other people view me as a Sonic Saint. Which is it?
>>Well, if you ask Lisa our vocalist on any given day,
>>you might get either answer and neither of them would
>>be 100% correct... it's a perception, and she's
>>welcome to form whichever she feels (sorry Lisa, I'm
>>not picking on you but I needed an example) at the
>>time...
>>
>>... I WILL say that I'm kind of glad we're not
>>floating every listener's boat... I'm glad to be
>>pissing a few people off playing music that "isn't
>>mine", because the Grateful Dead did that very same
>>thing throughout their entire career ("I Fought The
>>Law"?) and they still carry out that mission as
>>splinter cells to this very day (or did I just imagine
>>the name "Scratch-Dog" around the scene when Bobby
>>added turntables to his act?)
>>
>>As a member of this gathering, I am heartened by the
>>fact that there are people out there who love what we
>>do... but I'm also a bit put off by the rabid nature
>>and paving over perceived cracks by a few individuals
>>who can't take some criticism at the object of their
>>affection... the self-appointed cencors of the review
>>page are wearing blinders just as bad as the person
>>they are so desperately trying to muffle...
>>
>>You don't change anything by simply "making it go
>>away". Hard attitudes and strong attacks are not fun
>>to endure, but they can be met with intelligence
>>rather than brute strength or totalitarian-state style
>>cencorship.
>>
>>Just my two-cents,
>>
>>~Cameron~
>>DSO Sound Engineer & Trained Monkey
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