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Date Posted: 17:12:00 08/19/04 Thu
Author: Kristin
Author Host/IP: 64.24.209.185
Subject: Re: How do you know for sure your puppy is deaf?
In reply to: Tori Mueler 's message, "Re: How do you know for sure your puppy is deaf?" on 06:38:22 08/19/04 Thu

Good, Tori! I mistook your statement from your previous post that "We are not sure at this point what we are going to do" to mean you didn't know what you would do about the dog. I think you meant the breeder.

Great news for your pup that you love her and would never give her up. Good luck dealing with the breeder.

-Kristin

>Kristen,
>
>Oh no,we would not give our baby back, we do not care
>that she can't hear, we love her regardless! We have
>been teaching her hand signs and she has picked it all
>up quickly, giving her back to the breeder never
>crossed our minds, she is a member of our family!
>
>
>
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>
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>>Tori,
>>
>>If you feel owning a deaf dog is not for you, do give
>>your dog up to your breed rescue. I think you own a
>>Boston, so do a Google search for Boston Terrier
>>Rescue or go to the akc.com (American Kennel Club) and
>>click on breeds. They will have a rescue section
>>under that, I believe.
>>
>>Also, if you can get in touch with the National Breed
>>Club off of the AKC webpage (again under Breeds), I
>>think you may be able to complain about your breeder
>>to the National Club. And, if you have a contract,
>>you can take your breeder to small claims court.
>>
>>All of the above assumes you're in the US, which may
>>not be the case at all!
>>
>>And, visit the ddeaf.com website. They have great
>>information that can help you with your new baby.
>>Deaf dogs really aren't that different from the
>>hearing guys. They just take a little more patience
>>and determination when training.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Kristin
>>
>>>Hi Danica,
>>>Actually because my breeder insisted my puppy was
>just
>>>stubborn and had asked us to get another BAER test,
>we
>>>did and just found out that our pup is bilaterally
>>>deaf, she hears nothing. Unfortunately, since we got
>>>her test and infomred our breeder, she has chosen to
>>>do NOTHING about any health guarantee we have on her,
>>>she has decided since her reputation for how she had
>>>handled this in the first place was hurt, so out of
>>>spite, she has chosen to not honor our health
>>>guarantee. We are not sure at this point what we are
>>>going to do. Her head is all white except for the
>>>haggerty spot on her head and some lil tiny black
>>>spots from the sun, and she has blue specks in her
>>>eyes too. I am sorry for your puppy not hearing too,
>>>I am going to email you privately so we can talk more
>>>about our babies and I am curious as to where you got
>>>your baby from, I can also let you know which breeder
>>>I used and that I certainly would not recommend her
>to
>>>others! Tori
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>>I know your message was posted quite a while ago but
>>I
>>>>saw it and had to respond. I have a deaf boston
>>too.
>>>>Trigger has more white than most bostons and that I
>>>>believe is the cause of her deafness. I don't know
>>>>how much research you have done but I have done some
>>>>internet research and I definitely believe that
>>>>Trigger's is related to her one white ear (which is
>>>>the reason I chose her). Here is something I found
>>on
>>>>the web:
>>>>"Congenital Deafness (which is occasionally seen in
>>>>Boston Terriers) is caused by a defective gene.
>>There
>>>>are two pigmentation genes that are often seen in
>>deaf
>>>>dogs; one is the merle gene, the other is the
>piebald
>>>>gene. It is the piebald gene we see in congenitally
>>>>deaf Boston Terriers. There is vascular
>degeneration
>>>>in the ear canal and it appears to be associated
>with
>>>>the absence of pigment producing cells in the blood
>>>>vessels. Deafness usually develops within the first
>>>>few weeks after birth. Blue eyes, one or both, is
>>>>also commonly seen in pigment associated deafness.
>>>>Pigmentation is absent in the iris. Blue eyes,
>>>>however, do not necessarily mean deafness in a dog.
>>>>Boston Terriers who are half “white-faced” or have
>>>>large amounts of white, tend to experience partial
>or
>>>>full deafness."
>>>>Trig is a great dog - she took a lot longer to potty
>>>>train but she is 9 months old now and knows how to
>>>>sit, stay, shake hands, high five, come, and roll
>>>>over. She is a smart little cookie and I love her
>>>>dearly.
>>>>We didn't know Trigger was deaf when we got her and
>>it
>>>>was a frusterating few months before we finally
>>>>figured it out. We didn't have any testing done but
>>I
>>>>am sure she is deaf. She can hear very, very loud
>>>>noises (or perhaps it is the vibrations she feels)
>>but
>>>>she is oblivious to everything else. I try to
>>protect
>>>>her as much as possible from being startled however,
>>>>it is important to teach them that it is okay to be
>>>>started. Sometimes I startle her on purpose and
>then
>>>>praise her to let her know it's okay and it's not a
>>>>bad thing.
>>>>She is a sweet heart and I love her dearly but she
>is
>>>>also a handful and a lot of work sometimes.
>>>>If you paid full price for your pure bread dog you
>>>>should tell the breeder that your puppy is deaf and
>>>>ask for a refund. They should also not be breeding
>>>>the dogs parents any more.
>>>>I hope to hear back from you - my email address is
>>>>danicallen@hotmail.com
>>>>Danica

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