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Subject: VOTE NO! on Constitutional Amendment


Author:
Jobie
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Date Posted: 16:19:04 04/15/03 Tue

There is a Constitutional Amendment to be on the ballot. The current administration has taken it upon themselves and spent Cherokee Nation Funds to draft a completely changed Constitution. Granted, there are improvements that are needed in our Constitution, but they should be addressed individually. This is an all or nothing vote. I for one am afraid to vote for this package of changes, especially when wording is so critical when our courts interpret the law.
VOTE NO! VOTE NO! VOTE NO!
Then let's do it right later!

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Subject: JAT


Author:
admin
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Date Posted: 15:43:44 04/15/03 Tue

JUSTICE FOR ALL??????????????????????????????

Have you read the JAT's ruling on the Smith Residency hearing? They said it was proved that Smith had 2 residences and yet they said he could run for office?
I researched the Cherokee Law. The statutes state a candidate must have a 'bona fide permanent residence' within the historic boundries of the Cherokee Nation. The statutes also state 'residence is synonomous with domicile' which means residence is defined the same as domicile. You can only have one domicile and cannot establish a new one unless you abandon the first domicile.

Since Smith has domicile in Sapulpa long before he rented his apartment in Tahlequah and he still, by his own testimony, goes back to the Sapulpa residence regularly to be with his wife and children I don't see how the JAT could rule the way they did.

This is a good example of why our Justices should be elected and not appointed by the Chief!

What did you think you were voting for when the question came up on the ballot to require the Chief and Deputy Chief live in the Juristictional Boundries?

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  • Re: JAT -- Davy Crocket, 21:35:41 05/02/03 Fri
Subject: letter to editor


Author:
John Cornsilk
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Date Posted: 07:42:57 04/29/03 Tue

This letter may be better understood if a person would go to this link http://www.cornsilks.com/realconedu.html either before or after
you read:

Blast from the past!!

The year was 1987, an election year for the new Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, only the 4th ever.

The Blast includes an act by one of our recently departed
Cherokee Warriors and Elder, Mr. Ben Shoemake..

The election reeked of fraud as had the three previous and all since, and this one in 2003 already smells to hi-heaven!!

In 1987, Wilma Mankiller was challenged by Perry Wheeler each with a slate of council candidates to do their biding. This was before districts; the councilors ran at large the top 15 vote getters were the anointed.

David Cornsilk came in 16th 9 votes short, there was a 17th, an 18th and a 19th with a hundred or so votes, and these facts are a significant part of the blast.

Though Mankiller won, her slate of yes people did not, so she set out to change that..David Cornsilk was approached an ask to call for a recount at no cost, he refused, number 17 was approached, he refused, same with number 18, number 19 was approached and agreed..

The election commission set it up, all set ready to count, in through the escape hatch in the back of the council chambers where the count was being held stormed Charlie Soap mankillers husband and some law official, yelling hold it up, hold it up, we found another box. It was inspected and without explanation declared same as the others.

The Cherokee Constitution says the JAT (Cherokee Supreme Court) may oversee a recount. NOTHING about conducting it!!

Next in storms Phillip Viles the Chief Justice, and associate Justice Jack Rider, They kick out the Election commission seated Joe Grayson Sr. a candidate in the election and his son, none other than the smith's running mate in this 2003 election, Joe Grayson Jr. to assist in the re-count.

The Recount begins with the newly found box, and quite oddly folks the machines that had just counted all the ballots during the voting day for some (un-explainable??) reason would not accept the ballots, they had to be hand counted, what you suspect that means? The count went into the wee hours of the morning.

When the process began David Cornsilk walked up to Jack Rider, and ask "is it proper to have a Candidate in the election involved with the recount", Rider in his noted for gruff voice said " did you pay for this recount" David said "NO", Rider said "then sit down and shut-up"..

At the end of the recount guess what??, Yes, Mankillers slate came out on top, and to make it look good mankiller gained ONE vote..And the number 19 guy was anointed shot all the way up to 2nd er third place..Strangely David and the other three candidates, 16, 17, and 18, count remained unchanged..

Well Some stuff hit the fan the next morning when the Election Commission was called on to certify the election Four refused to certify it, this is where the just departed Warrior (Ben Shoemake) was, yes he was an election Commissioner and one of the four that refused to certify the debacle, another was Florian Griggs, the very same Council candidate in a following election that was ruled ineligible because she lived outside the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma boundarys, and rented an apartment inside, just like the Candidate Smith has, in this CNO election of 2003..

Wilma showed up at the commission office raising Cain yelling they were tearing down the Cherokee Nation, she was shown the door by the commission.

Anyway Viles and his cohort of the JAT was called on to certify their own count, they did, and the Mankiller disease of The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma continues!!

Don't recall who the other two good guys were, but the fifth who thought all was fine with the fraudualistic debacle, guess who?? None other than Edith Locust Dalton, the Candidate on Smith's ticket as one of the slate of 11, who have sworn to serve the Chief rather than the people in their respective districts in this CNO election of 2003..

So what does that tell you district three voters?

Recall the mentioned of storming in of Viles and cohort, only two jurist. Well guess what, the third had just got kicked off the bench, seems a question had arose as to whether Swimmer had appointed a white man to the bench and his bunch of yes people on the council approved him with out checking him out. He was a white man.

Of course this is another story, one of the many in the short life of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma in its quest to hang on to power over the Cherokee peoples assets, not to govern!!


John Cornsilk
14013 N 524 Rd.
Tahlequah, Ok. 74464
(918)456-7753

PS: there is no way to tell this story a fewer number of words, if you can not use it thats fine!


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Subject: Chief Smith's Ignorance!


Author:
John Cornsilk
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Date Posted: 13:01:12 05/05/03 Mon

At the forum in Claremore this past week end, Chad demonstrated his lack of knowledge in the area of one of the greatest concerns of the Cherokee People.

It is appalling to say the least, particularly with the treatment Indians have had with the promised health service..

Robin was addressing the health care issue, stating it was a treaty right an leaders should be in DC demanding our right to the superior care promised..

Chad challenged Robins statement with a clue-less nit-picking statement he said, "this was not a treaty right, that he had read ever treaty there is, and it is promised no where".. IHS is funded because we are poor people "he said'..

The mere fact of the IHS tells you it is a service owed lest we be in the State welfare lines more than we are caused from lack of action by our supposed leaders..

Chad dared anyone to present fact to discredit what he said..

Some of Joe Byrds people were there they promised to oblige him!!

In a piece Robin Found on the origin of IHS, if you will note, it lists treaties as one of the means by which we are entitled..

Robins find:

THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A HISTORY OF THE I.H.S.

The governmental duty to provide health services to Indian tribes derives from many sources. These sources include negotiated treaties to ceded Native American lands, settlements, agreements, and legislation. Significantly, there are specific treaties signed by the federal government and Indian tribes, exchanging Native American land and resources for federal promises of health care and other services. The generally accepted premise of government responsibility to Native Americans is based upon the destruction of Native American civilization and the poverty and disease, which followed in its wake.


I was out looking also, I found these words by Senator Inouye..

Sen. Inouye who said, "Over 100 years ago, the Indian people of this nation purchased the first pre-paid health care plan, a plan that was paid for by the cession of millions of acres of land to the United States.

John Cornsilk

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