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Date Posted: 23:31:42 07/20/01 Fri
Author: Sal Santovasco
Author Host/IP: spider-mtc-ta023.proxy.aol.com / 64.12.105.28
Subject: Re: Are they still alive?????
In reply to: Rick 's message, "Are they still alive?????" on 09:31:56 06/06/01 Wed

>Does anyone know if the following Junkies are still
>alive
>Sal Spankey Miano,Billy-Ricky-Whitey Pullman,Steve
>Swiver Berman,Charley Masse,Peter Choto,
Charley Masse died of and OD.
At least one or all of the Pullman brothers died,possibly aids.
Peter choto is in the witness protection program.He was in the mafia under Anthony Gaspipe Casso.
Spankey and swiver might be alright.

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[> Re: Are they still alive????? -- Deborah Olin, 05:12:34 04/08/03 Tue (cache-ra05.proxy.aol.com/152.163.188.5)

>Does anyone know if the following Junkies are still
>alive
>Sal Spankey Miano,Billy-Ricky-Whitey Pullman,Steve
>Swiver Berman,Charley Masse,Peter Choto,
Billy Pullmans still alive at least he was in 88 I ran into him, he was still running around husseling but not on junk, I think his brothers died, Billy had a dauhter with his girlfriend who he married the notorious 'gimme all your money' Norma. I remember charlie Mass and everyone was afraid of him. He once came into 272 park and scared the shit out of everyone, he chased me around the sand box while I screamed bloody murder which he loved, we were afraid because we heard he dug up graves in the canarsie cematery and robbed the gold teeth and whatever. Once Spanky ended up hanging with us, Larry Silver, Nancy jiminez,Chopper(Curtis Myers who died at 17 the best kid) Billy Pullman before he got really screwed up he was more into speed and acid then like thats any better, Larry Crigliano, Bazooka Bob and just a whole lotta kids, Spanky passed out cold. I put makeup on him tons of it, he had his shirt off so I even painted flowers around his man boobs! When he woke up he was still wacked out and we walked all over the neighborhood and he didnt know he was all made up till we went by the shopping center and he noticed his reflection in the window and he went BESERK!!! No one told it was me thank god.,it was the funniest thing
I can only imagine there all dead or rotting in jail. The biggest waste was Billy Pullman., he was a really good kid he was incredibly talented he played a great harmonica, he loved the Rolling Stones, when Brian Jones died we went to the park and buried his harp in Brians honor we all cried., then Billy got into speed and his mother through him out he was sleeping in the park, street were ever, I felt really bad and Id bring him food, when my family wasnt home I let him in to shower and wash his clothes. Billy was also the most incredible artist I mean amazing, he painted a mural in my room., my mother who was very into art was amazed and said next time Billy paint it on paper, he painted brian Jones on a tropical island it was beautiful.Once he stole a watermelon and a shitload of produce he stole from Bohacks loading dock and my mom freaked out, them once he came over and spent too long a time in the bathroom and my mom who was pretty hip started banging on the door yelling at him I know what your doing Billy! Get out! After that I wasnt allowed to hang out with him and frankly I didnt want to be around that or my other friends we all tried to help him, then Norma came back I think she was in reform scghool or down south or in jail and then together they were just like a pre- Sid and Nancy. I feel bad that I had to avoid billy he was hurt that Id walk away gotta go billy but he was too fucked up and sleezy and its a shame I ran into him in the village near my home years later in the 70s and he had been in and out of jail but still painting, he had a painting with him, it was amazing, but I left because I didnt trust getting sucked into Billy's world. Billy was NEVER my boyfriend more like a brother, I hope maybe he straigtened out, didnt get aids, I think whitey got murdered in jail or something awful..,or got aids. Its a shame. All those other junkies were worthless anyway, but Billy could of been something great, he had so much talent, charm he was goofy funny but he followed the doomed footsteps of his shitty brothers and that was the begining of the end of Billy, God knows we all tried to talk to him and support him but oh well. His daughter must be in her late 20s. I dont put Billy in that catogory of the canarsie junkies., there were alot of nice kids that played with junk, and two died, Alen Miller and Curtis Myers,"Chopper" Allan was a brilliant kid and a muscian and Chopper was a artist and an expert horseman so there you go. But the other guys you mentioned they were pure low lifes

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[> [> Re: Are they still alive????? -- caryn rudoltz, 09:26:46 08/23/04 Mon (dorset.nt.tas.gov.au/147.109.250.26)

>>Does anyone know if the following Junkies are still
>>alive
>>Sal Spankey Miano,Billy-Ricky-Whitey Pullman,Steve
>>Swiver Berman,Charley Masse,Peter Choto,
> Billy Pullmans still alive at least he was in 88 I
>ran into him, he was still running around husseling
>but not on junk, I think his brothers died, Billy had
>a dauhter with his girlfriend who he married the
>notorious 'gimme all your money' Norma. I remember
>charlie Mass and everyone was afraid of him. He once
>came into 272 park and scared the shit out of
>everyone, he chased me around the sand box while I
>screamed bloody murder which he loved, we were afraid
>because we heard he dug up graves in the canarsie
>cematery and robbed the gold teeth and whatever. Once
>Spanky ended up hanging with us, Larry Silver, Nancy
>jiminez,Chopper(Curtis Myers who died at 17 the best
>kid) Billy Pullman before he got really screwed up he
>was more into speed and acid then like thats any
>better, Larry Crigliano, Bazooka Bob and just a whole
>lotta kids, Spanky passed out cold. I put makeup on
>him tons of it, he had his shirt off so I even painted
>flowers around his man boobs! When he woke up he was
>still wacked out and we walked all over the
>neighborhood and he didnt know he was all made up till
>we went by the shopping center and he noticed his
>reflection in the window and he went BESERK!!! No one
>told it was me thank god.,it was the funniest thing
> I can only imagine there all dead or rotting in jail.
>The biggest waste was Billy Pullman., he was a really
>good kid he was incredibly talented he played a great
>harmonica, he loved the Rolling Stones, when Brian
>Jones died we went to the park and buried his harp in
>Brians honor we all cried., then Billy got into speed
>and his mother through him out he was sleeping in the
>park, street were ever, I felt really bad and Id bring
>him food, when my family wasnt home I let him in to
>shower and wash his clothes. Billy was also the most
>incredible artist I mean amazing, he painted a mural
>in my room., my mother who was very into art was
>amazed and said next time Billy paint it on paper, he
>painted brian Jones on a tropical island it was
>beautiful.Once he stole a watermelon and a shitload of
>produce he stole from Bohacks loading dock and my mom
>freaked out, them once he came over and spent too long
>a time in the bathroom and my mom who was pretty hip
>started banging on the door yelling at him I know what
>your doing Billy! Get out! After that I wasnt allowed
>to hang out with him and frankly I didnt want to be
>around that or my other friends we all tried to help
>him, then Norma came back I think she was in reform
>scghool or down south or in jail and then together
>they were just like a pre- Sid and Nancy. I feel bad
>that I had to avoid billy he was hurt that Id walk
>away gotta go billy but he was too fucked up and
>sleezy and its a shame I ran into him in the village
>near my home years later in the 70s and he had been in
>and out of jail but still painting, he had a painting
>with him, it was amazing, but I left because I didnt
>trust getting sucked into Billy's world. Billy was
>NEVER my boyfriend more like a brother, I hope maybe
>he straigtened out, didnt get aids, I think whitey got
>murdered in jail or something awful..,or got aids. Its
>a shame. All those other junkies were worthless
>anyway, but Billy could of been something great, he
>had so much talent, charm he was goofy funny but he
>followed the doomed footsteps of his shitty brothers
>and that was the begining of the end of Billy, God
>knows we all tried to talk to him and support him but
>oh well. His daughter must be in her late 20s. I dont
>put Billy in that catogory of the canarsie junkies.,
>there were alot of nice kids that played with junk,
>and two died, Alen Miller and Curtis Myers,"Chopper"
>Allan was a brilliant kid and a muscian and Chopper
>was a artist and an expert horseman so there you go.
>But the other guys you mentioned they were pure low
>lifes
I knew Allen Miller , I grew up with him on east 84th and L. He was a real nice guy, a great musician and a friend. We acted as my big brother. I surely do miss him. I was outside of my haouse when the ambulances came for Allen. We were all devestated because he was so nice, but had a big problemHe is missed.. now for about 32 years.

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