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Date Posted: 09:07:24 07/16/04 Fri
Author: Shel Ski Luv
Author Host/IP: hhcfwfshrd-pat.nychhc.org / 207.127.241.2
Subject: Re: Back in the Days
In reply to: Mike 's message, "Re: Back in the Days" on 23:32:15 07/06/03 Sun

You know what, white people? I can't even blame you for the things you say about Canarsie now. I'm a black man that remembers Canarsie back in the 80's. And I have to say that it was a nice neighborhood. Although I was living on the outskirts of East New York in the 80's, I did visit Canarsie a couple of times. I lived with my mother in the 80's and whatever neighborhood we lived in over the years, she saw to it that it was good enough to raise a child in. I remember walking up Ave. L just to go to the movies by myself. Back then there were a lot of white people living in Canarsie...but they didn't bother me. I respected the neighborhood and I felt the respect in return.
By 1999 I started to reside in Canarsie along with my mother and wife. I noticed that a lot of white people left and migrated elsewhere and that a lot of blacks and hispanics moved into the area. I've also noticed that our youth happens to be the most ignorant generation of all times. I'm very surprised and disappointed in my people for not taking more time to raise their kids up the right way.
My mother is from the Caribbean and I was born in Brooklyn. My father ducked his responsibilities as a man and filed for divorce when I was ten. Most people, especially white people, would think that I would grow up to be just another statistic. But my mother wasn't having that. She whipped my ass and put me in check if I ever stepped out of line. And I thank her for that because there is a big problem within the black community. Martin Luthor King and Malcolm X would be disgraced with the state of black youth today. It seems that all those civil-right marches were all for nothing.
Some of us take pride in where we live by keeping our surroundings clean and pleasant at all times. The white people that walk by our house gives my mother compliments on the flowers and plants that she has in the front yard. But...there are some black people that could care less about their Canarsie homes. I've seen these people litter the streets with their trash that just seems to end up in my mother's drive-way every week. These are the people that smoke weed out in the open and let their little kids roam the streets with no adult supervision, and listening to adult-oriented lyrics in today's music.
I can't apologize for the bad apples in the bunch but I do want the white people that still reside or used to reside in Canarsie to realize that all black people are not the same. The good and bad traits in society can be found in all races of people. Thank you for your time. Peace.

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[> [> Re: Back in the Days -- Danielle, 07:40:48 07/23/05 Sat (pool-68-163-64-191.res.east.verizon.net/68.163.64.191)

I must be missing something here. Really, I must be missing something. It sucks that Grabstein's isn't there anymore, and that there isn't anywhere else to go out to eat except for Chinese and Caribbean food. But other than that, I don't really see much difference between Canarsie now and the Canarsie of my childhood. Except that not everyone is Jewish and Italian, and I would say that's an improvement (and I myself am a Jewish girl who sometimes gets mistaken for an Italian). Canarsie was never that great- I always thought the people were kind of trashy. So they kept things clean and didn't kill each other, when I was a kid I always felt like people were mean and uneducated. I had to go to high school in manhattan so I wouldn't get beat up for doing my homework and wearing glasses. My parents still live in the same house I grew up in, and the block looks as good as it ever did. A house on the block recently sold for like $450K-- that's INSANE. There are all kinds of people living there, and they take care of their shit, and are nicer to each other than I remember from when I was living there. Crime is a problem in every city- if you want to go somewhere with no muggings go move to a quiet little town in the midwest. Of course, as someone from the city people will look at you with suspicion. Maybe then you'll appreciate where you come from.


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