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Date Posted: 07:26:37 03/12/01 Mon
Author: MK
Subject: Contact JOEL STEIN - Let's get to the bottom of this!

It's time we all did something about this . . . . after reading the Joel Stein article in TIME Magazine, I am really angry with the Miss Universe people. I feel certain that the finalists who appeared on the Miss USA Pageant telecast are NOT the ones who were actually judged highest by the prelim panel.

We need to take action - call Joel Stein's office at (212) 627-0222 and please, very courteously, ask him to investigate this further. He is in a position where maybe he CAN get to the bottom of this farce. Ask Mr. Stein to see if he can get statements from the other preliminary judges, in addition to a court order to release all scores from the preliminaries and the finals.

There is absolutely NO WAY the ten who were on the show are the actual ten . . . . I don't buy it and you don't buy it. We need to do something NOW to help make sure Trump and CBS don't run this pageant into the ground.

Please be concise when you call Mr. Stein. Simply state your message and leave it at that. Do not rant and rave about things he will have no knowledge of, or interest in hearing. Keep your call professional and simple.

There is one other thing that perhaps none of us has considered. He may have been a Donald Trump "plant" --- purposely asked to write an article, good or bad, about the experience. After all, at least it's publicity, something the company rarely gets. And, by adding the 'would you sleep with Donald Trump' comment in the story, the Donald's ego is pumped up. Who gives a dam* about the 51 contestants as long as Donald is happy! Something to consider. (I would not mention this possibility to Stein when you call - LOL).

The company holds a dress rehearsal early in the day on the day of the live show, at which time I believe they make their final choices for which girls will be put in the finals. North Dakota didn't want to win but they tried her out at the dress rehearsal; likely they were afraid she would SAY she did not want to win on the show that evening so she was cut from the group. Oregon's mother has a terminal disease; other states were chosen to be among the top ten based on favoritism of the state pageant directors. And I believe the company had pre-chosen Missouri to win, but when she froze up there was no way a win could be justified. These are just my own theories, but based on what I've been hearing from other people I am not alone. Stein can maybe help. Interviews with the other preliminary judges, a court order, and a full investigation as to WHY two CBS employees would ALSO be invited to judge on the preliminary panel. Answers to these questions would at least be a start.

Marc, New York

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[> Notice Vermont was the only state Stein mentioned by name other than Texas! -- Interesting!, 07:51:33 03/12/01 Mon


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[> [> What does that prove? -- H, 13:16:49 03/12/01 Mon


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[> [> [> Ask Joel! -- anonymous, 16:47:06 03/12/01 Mon


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[> Re: Contact JOEL STEIN - Let's get to the bottom of this! -- P, 17:02:07 03/12/01 Mon

I tried to call. The number is disconnected!


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[> [> Re: I tried to call. Phone # is disconnected -- n/t, 17:02:54 03/12/01 Mon


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[> [> [> You are in left field.... read the article again.... -- cantrip, 17:45:09 03/12/01 Mon

He is NOT saying that the wrong contestants made the top 10. Cripes, you people have seen "The Conspiracy Theory" one time too many.

What he is saying is that he was impressed with the delegate who said "Score me low. I do not want to win." In his opinion, that is the contestant that he would have picked and in his mind, she would be THE WINNER. He was not trying to say that the pageant fixed the results.


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[> Conspiracy!! Now I know I'm at Pageant Central. Haven't heard stories of conspiracies since...well, when was the last pageant before Miss USA? -- imnosleuthbutyournoteither, 01:07:53 03/13/01 Tue


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[> Call Time Magazine in New York City and ask to speak to Joel Stein. -- Noname, 07:26:38 03/13/01 Tue


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[> What is the date of the TIME magazine that this article is in? -- Enrique, 01:03:51 03/14/01 Wed


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[> [> March 12, 2001 -- Answered, 06:11:46 03/14/01 Wed


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[> Has anyone talked to Joel Stein? -- Curious, 20:21:27 03/14/01 Wed


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[> YOU TAKE SARCASM TOO SERIOUSLY> This was a humorous article. There's always a humorous column in that spot in TIME by either Stein or Calvin Trillin. It's called a HUMOROUS PIECE. He's making fun of pageants and the only delegate he wanted to win, and considered the real winner, was the one who told him not to score her high. Please don't make fools of yourselves by contacting TIME and complaining. How EMBARRASSING. By the way, ever heard of freedom of the press? Get lives. -- duh, 08:18:10 03/16/01 Fri


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[> Joel Stein is a great writer; however, he was upset that the Top Ten the preliminary judges picked were not the contestants shown on final night. -- Anonymous, 18:28:01 03/16/01 Fri


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[> [> Yeah right, you keep telling yourself that the top 10 werent chosen by the prelim judges, I agree with the replier above, saying he was writing a satire article. Some of you take this way too seriously -- No Name, 19:36:59 03/16/01 Fri


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