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Date Posted: 12:50:32 09/01/05 Thu
Author: CC
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 202.128.229.43
Subject: 吹咀爛左....
我個 yamaha 4c 膠吹崩左隻角, 使唔使買過隻? 定係照吹可也?
如要買的話應該買邊款? 我學左 alto 半年, 用o既係 yamaha yas23.
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- Lawrence, 21:16:10 09/01/05 Thu [1] (cm61-10-7-93.hkcable.com.hk/61.10.7.93)
如果你對saxophone好有興趣,而有$的話,當然買個好吹咀啦,支saxophone會好玩d!
應該買邊款? 就視乎你喜歡吹 classical 或 jazz, 鍾意d sound bright 或 dark; 不如 bring your sax 走去 TOM LEE 或 PM 試下啦!
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- stfg, 02:48:21 09/03/05 Sat [1] (NoHost/221.127.215.79)
最好當然要換個新啦~~若平宜又不錯的我建議都是yamaha 4c custom~
至少都叫做人手打磨出而成的~~比原廠4c的好~~當然若你對音色有分辨能力和要求的~~就當然買更好的品牌出品啦~~價錢就一定貴~~
膠咀一般都要$5XX-$700~~看個人負擔能力吧~~
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- CC, 11:27:16 09/07/05 Wed [1] (NoHost/202.128.225.50)
>更好的品牌出品
有冇例子呢?
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- stfg, 12:25:41 09/07/05 Wed [1] (n219076176183.netvigator.com/219.76.176.183)
較出名且又被常用的 Seimer C* 吧∼價錢大約$650左右∼通X琴行有售∼
還有 Vandoven ∼但這品牌有不同形號∼聲色也不一樣 當然還選開口的大小∼
看自己經驗及要求吧∼
還有其他更好的就請各同好者指教∼指教∼^^"
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- stfg, 12:29:13 09/07/05 Wed [1] (n219076176183.netvigator.com/219.76.176.183)
錯了字 更正是 Selmer C*
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- CC, 10:42:03 09/09/05 Fri [1] (NoHost/202.128.225.50)
請問 selma c* 係 jazz 定 classic o既呢?
音色係 bright 定 dark?
同埋, 我上 pm 睇過, 都係 d 唔熟o既牌子.
有冇人熟呢 d 牌子呢?
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- CC, 11:05:43 09/09/05 Fri [1] (NoHost/202.128.225.50)
還有, 哪些吹咀比較耐用呢? 我怕新的吹咀很容易又給我用壞掉.... >_<
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- stfg, 13:57:02 09/09/05 Fri [1] (n219076176183.netvigator.com/219.76.176.183)
Selmer C* 音色偏向bright∼至於你說 jazz 定 classic這個問題？
個人認為吹咀是沒有特定只用來吹 jazz 或 classic 類型的∼
或許一般認為bright就是Classic∼dark 就是 jazz感覺∼
但吹嘴的音色如何∼所選用哪款簧片和吹法技巧也可以好大影響∼
我也看過有人用金屬吹咀也可以吹出dark的音色∼
而Classic 和 jazz 終究是樂理上的分別吧∼
比較耐用問題？^^" 一句話∼用時小心為上就可以了∼
不然即使用金屬吹也會撞凹變形的∼
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Re: 斯擋酘.... -- Beg, 20:09:50 09/09/05 Fri [1] (sgtpkcplexnsproxy01.ssmb.com/192.193.164.5)
價掛奻扂肮砩鞶穬璉蝯醴晰.
祥綎珨啜players廌嗣蚚Selmer S80 C* 穘甥lassic腔煬.
祥岆掊Selmer S80 C* 祥褫眕蚚穘 jazz, 筍籵都jazz players 袚⑴秞伎衄廌湮趙腔斯擋, 垀眕坻嗣蚚珨虳湮嶱諳斯擋, 膗, E 麼F.
奧Selmer砫嶴azz汜宴賸Super Session 斯擋, 郔腔徨蚕D嶱宎.
燊黺騵蚚腔觳, 扂膘荽斕褫眕蕉]惁斯擋悵荾惿, 廣HK$30-40 8え
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- Lawrence, 20:25:07 09/09/05 Fri [1] (cm61-10-7-177.hkcable.com.hk/61.10.7.177)
In fact, what is your budget for the new mouthpiece and you preference on sound (jazz/classic, bright or dark,......)?
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- Beg, 00:31:46 09/10/05 Sat [1] (n218250132224.netvigator.com/218.250.132.224)
基本上我同意ｓｔｆｇ的看法.
不過一般players較多用Selmer S80 C* 來吹classic的樂章.
不是説Selmer S80 C* 不可以用來吹 jazz, 但通常jazz players 追求音色有較大變化的吹咀, 所以他們多用一些大開口吹咀, 如D, E 或F號.
而Selmer亦為jazz生産了Super Session 吹咀, 最細的號碼由D開始.
關於耐用的問題, 我建議你可以考慮買吹咀保護貼, 約HK$30-40 8片
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- CC, 10:37:38 09/10/05 Sat [1] (NoHost/202.128.225.50)
Thanks stfg, Lawrence and Beg.
Lawerence, 因為我只係學左半年, 所以仲未好識欣賞 classic 或 jazz 等唔同o既風格. 亦未知自己會走邊條路線. 所以亦唔敢放太多 budget 落 accessory 度. 總之越平越好.
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- Lawrence, 20:24:56 09/10/05 Sat [1] (cm222-166-160-45.hkcable.com.hk/222.166.160.45)
明曬! 你個崩左隻角yamaha 4c吹出d聲還正常媽? 如果正常就可照用. (我之前有隻趺崩左隻角yamaha 4c都可照吹.) 如果吹出d聲唔正常, 就買隻yamaha 4c or 一些大開口大d吹yamaha咀; 一般來說,吹咀開口愈大,音色可有較大變化,亦同時較難控制.你自己試下先,但如你選擇開口和你以前不同之吹咀,相信你要時間適應.(我個人較愛開口大吹咀).BTW, 你用什麼reeds(牌子和厚度)? 一般來說,開口大吹咀用薄reed會好d.
至於耐用方面,你隻吹咀是比你趺崩或"bite"崩左隻角,如果是前者, 相信任何耐用極之吹咀都容易趺壞, 唯有小心d; 如果是"bite"崩, 你就要避免"bite"個吹咀(有時reed太厚,會養成用力"bite"吹咀之壞習慣).
現在留番d$,當你識classic 或 jazz 等唔同o既風格. 知道自己會走邊條路線,再買個自己喜歡的吹咀啦!
Hope the above help!
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- CC, 14:30:32 09/13/05 Tue [1] (NoHost/202.128.225.50)
又冇跌過又冇大力咬.
某日風乾完就發覺冇左一忽.
(都唔知係咪俾阿媽整爛)
仲吹倒正常聲.
reeds 方面, 我仲摸索緊. 試過用 rico 2.5
而家用緊 la vox mudium, 感覺上 d 聲好似好聽過 rico.
仲有待繼續體驗.
所以都唔排除遲 d 會平平地買個大開口吹咀作多方面賞試.
lawrence 你o既意見對我好有用. 唔該哂.
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Re: 吹咀爛左.... -- Peter, 00:17:31 09/15/05 Thu [1] (n219077080247.netvigator.com/219.77.80.247)
Depends on a lot of things......
if you really want a Selmer C* or a C** I can sell you one for 500HKD. I also got some other mouthpieces.
email me if you wish.
I can also sell you an alto
email me anyway.....
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