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Date Posted: 23:16:18 11/20/05 Sun
Author: charlie parker
Author Host/IP: cm222-166-160-97.hkcable.com.hk / 222.166.160.97
Subject: 為音樂堂張sir申冤

我跟張sir 學緊野(2年), 他教得好過james, 朱穎恆, tomlee,
起碼跟去學到野...你班友好冇品, 學唔到野就屈人,
唔好再屈佢!

www.jazz901.com

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- super20, 23:40:19 11/20/05 Sun [1] (pcd407210.netvigator.com/203.218.197.210)

教得點好法?可否具體講來聽聽?

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- charlie parker, 23:49:02 11/20/05 Sun [1] (cm61-10-7-233.hkcable.com.hk/61.10.7.233)

起碼可以讓你自己發揮,唔會下下跟老師的style...
我覺得好過j先生...下下跟佢吹...一模一樣, 冇自己style..
他有8級saxophone 唔一定要show off gar!!!
起碼批評他的人都未必有8級啦!

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- csf, 23:31:44 11/21/05 Mon [1] (n219077072119.netvigator.com/219.77.72.119)

又係你呀?? sc?!

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- Kenny, 07:07:42 11/22/05 Tue [1] (NoHost/192.195.117.34)

I think think so wor.....I think SC sucks......

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- 明仔, 12:34:40 11/22/05 Tue [1] (ipvpn112078.netvigator.com/203.198.223.78)

起碼張sir找了很多教材給我地,唔使自己找譜,找了很多SCALES, ARRPEGIOS 的書,我地可照跟cd吹,他從旁指點,用口唱譜..自己吹野想像空間大好多..8級不用show off(i agree to charlie parker)

再講,香港音樂人,真的愈來愈少,點解要仇視人家,再多呢djealous 人地的牛鬼蛇神,香港msuic industry 一定玩完 !!

他有朋友是tvb artist,自己亦有在酒吧玩過jazz(現在太忙,沒有玩),實力超強!!

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- super20, 19:19:45 11/22/05 Tue [1] (pcd319084.netvigator.com/203.218.109.84)

其實講咁多都無謂。唔討論d人用幾個名自己同自己講野。

我建議sc將jaaz901別人那斷片cut去,post過一段自己演奏的就ok。所謂拳不離手,曲不離口,係龍係蛇,露一手就乜都清楚晒。唔鐘意show off都好,我諗而家係證明自己既時候了。乜野tvb藝員,識又點?同識音樂有乜關係?唔係石修呀?!
甚麼在bar吹過jazz,對不起我不在場呢。所以不如實際d,俾大家睇下點樣實力超強。或者咪當俾機會大家學下野囉。

而且你係有料既,大家都會欣賞,你又可以省靚個招牌,一箭雙鵰啦!

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- Beg, 23:14:56 11/22/05 Tue [1] (n218250132250.netvigator.com/218.250.132.250)

super20,

no need to spend so much time on this guy. you know, the police report told us don't buy "London Gold", yet nowaday many people are still trapped by this kind of case. i think sc just find a way for living only. he never expect such a hot reposone from the web......

sc,

i think you're very busy to use different identities, so i help you to respond super20 by extracting the following message:

Re: 音樂堂張 Sir -- Selmer 兄, 13:04:37 11/12/05 Sat [1] (pcd359177.netvigator.com/203.218.149.177)

" Super 20 "....你好似好 angry S.C. WOR.....I just hear many student study in 音樂堂 have got much high mark in Royal Saxophone Examination.. My friend now still study by S.C. .. for the grade " 8 ".. my friend call " Roy "... is one TVB.. Artist .. he said to me.. S.C. also no play the song. too.. but he said. he just play one times...but... my friend have got " Grade 8 " Pass in merit.. so.. I think.. this is not . .the problems.. the teacher.. play or not.. is.. the.. teaching method. more than the playing.. for example. know play.. not mean know teach. hope you know 這一點 !!...另外... I know.. 音樂堂 now start open the second hand market.. for example. the " Mark VI Alto saxophone, Mark VI Tenor Saxophone, king Super Alto Saxophone, Conn Vintage.. and. .some super Meyer. ... AND I have go to the shop to see before.. and find .. the price is ok....ha ha... so.. " super 20 兄.. maybe.. you 太針對 la.. ha ha....."

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charlie parker,

originally i don't want to respond to you. anyway, i think the following extract is enough to show you're "自打咀巴":

音樂堂張 Sir -- Kenny, 23:02:58 11/13/05 Sun [1] (pcd358252.netvigator.com/203.218.148.252)

標哥, Beg, super20...我覺得你們個個都好冇品!..大家都是玩音樂的, 點解要去話人...唔通你地好得 ?.... 你們知唔知..香港音樂已死..好似你們這一類香港人, 在香港只懂得比較別人, 說人好與不好, 老師考了 what level ?... 我覺得你們根本唔識專重別人!...我覺得你們這一類人讀幾多書都無用...大家唔好介意..因為我真的看不過眼 !...你們回去再想想點解要去學 saxophone.. 和點解要去玩 saxophone..?....saxophone 只不過是一個死物...你們便因為這一個死物去話人..去傷害別人...( 你們做人有何意思 ? ).......

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- 點解大家要這樣呢 ?, 02:41:03 02/08/06 Wed [1] (pcd368169.netvigator.com/203.218.158.169)

點解大家要這樣呢 ?

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[> [> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- 受害人之一, 13:09:52 02/08/06 Wed [1] (NoHost/203.78.69.199)

點解我地要咁樣 ? 身為一個教師唔可能呃呃騙騙的手發去教人,專騙一些對sax 有興趣的人, 佢睇死d新學員對sax無乜深入智識 ,就以高價哄佢地同佢買野 , 其中有個學員 只吹了三個月就叩佢買支 金屬吹咀, 仲係一支不知名麊鷵搣C , 仲要成$1,200. Yanagisawa金屬咀 在譜揚都係$1,050 . 有無可能三個月就可以用金屬吹咀呢 ? 三個月跟本連咀形都未掌握得到 , 點可以用金屬吹咀 , 呢條友只在付賺錢不理學員死活 , 買貴野都唔係太大問題 , 問題就係學壞咀 , 用氣用錯 , Tonguing 用錯喉嚨 Tonguing 佢都唔知 , 拍子唔教 ,一味長D 短D , 一拍短D 兩拍長D ?????? 我跟佢學了七個月 , 跟原聲CD可以跟得到黠吹 , 但只用背樂咁就死火 , 跟唔到不特止 , 幾時入都數唔到 !!! 仲有一樣呢位張老闆 佢話吹高音個咀含出D , 吹低音個咀含入D ! 一首曲有高有低咁即係要含出含入 ?? 呢位真係高手中之高手.
覺得好怪點解喉嚨愈吹愈唔舒服 ! 後來我去問另一位專業音樂人 , 他一聽就知我錯得很利害 , 而家我跟呢位專業音樂人學了一年 , 我要用六個月改我咀形同氣我運用 .
以上都只是冰山一角 , 仲有好多不為人知鼣 , 我地無發表出黎 , 我地唔想有更多受害者姐 .......
你而家應該明白 我地點解要咁做味 , 如不明白 , 請發表你個人意見 .

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[> [> [> Re: 橏溧sir扠啀 -- jack, 17:32:53 02/11/06 Sat [1] (pcd440030.netvigator.com/203.218.230.30)

Don't know why can't type chinese? Please read below in simplified chinese.

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陑儸匊銨踸e呡PS怬詢赻撩,斛腴忒珩.

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- 又是受害人之一, 02:15:08 02/12/06 Sun [1] (pcd312002.netvigator.com/203.218.102.2)

我第一次上這網, 見多人討論張sir..
其實我都是一位受害人, 跟張sir 學了2年,初初跟佢買sax, 佢話yanagisawa好,我聽佢講就同佢訂 s901(hk$20,000), 誰知佢話冇貨,就叫我要yamaha的同級色士風, 我話ok啦,yamaha都一樣啦..過了1年,對sax有dd認識,突然去到tomlee,
嘩!!我支sax只值8000大元, 是啊, 我支野是yas-275, 冇錯啊,亞sir 屈q我12,000,我份人有d怕事,反正以前搵到d錢...
又唸大家都是搵飯食,費事趕絕人啦上堂時去問張sir 點解見到tomlee 賣8000 元, 他說:是咩,沒理由,就找個藉口出去了房.
此事我都有跟幾個師兄弟訴苦,我發誓此事千真萬確..唔係比車撞死.

大家不要再跟呢個人買野,學野啦!
音樂堂又攪學音樂,又攬補習班,你認為專業咩!?

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- 申冤者, 03:04:35 02/20/06 Mon [1] (n218103149078.netvigator.com/218.103.149.78)

我相信要申冤的人,不是張 Sir。而是被張 Sir 用埋 d 所謂o既的「商業手法」「賺」左錢的人。

事實上,張 Sir 你「賺」左人咁多錢,你賺得安樂嗎?你可以認為是因為別人蠢?是因為別人對色士風認識不深?就去搵人笨嗎?

多行不義必自斃,就算你賺到錢,卻已換來臭名,值得嗎?或者,這個世界,總是有些人,喜歡用名譽去換取錢;就像傳銷,用朋友換取金錢……

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- William Cheung, 13:09:34 02/21/06 Tue [1] (pcd299195.netvigator.com/203.218.89.195)

傳銷唔同, 唔算係用朋友換金錢, 咁朋友都係有需要同覺得 d 野平, 先去搵傳銷買野姐, 做傳銷咪即係打份 sales 工, 如果賣俾個個朋友都唔賺, 咁咪即係做義工, 無糧出點生活呢?

例如個人唔做傳銷啦, 去 Sogo 到做 Sales, 咁個朋友去到 Sogo 同佢買野, 又唔會有問題喎, 係香港唔習慣傳銷方式同以前 d 傳銷做得衰所以先有咁既壞印象姐

一句講晒, 做生意還做生意, 要有良心, 做臭自己個名係自己攞黎, 唔抵可憐 :>

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- William Cheung, 13:11:00 02/21/06 Tue [1] (pcd299195.netvigator.com/203.218.89.195)

算啦, 邊有咁多人得閒專登黎針對你呀, 吹衰你會有獎咩? 如果真係教得好, 自然會有口碑, 好似 Wesley, Nicohlas, Tony, etc. 大家都係以事論事, 講你兩句唔岩聽 (仲要唔係話錯你喎, 係事實喎), 就鬧人無品, 不過又講唔出人地邊到話錯你, 邊到屈你喎! 最利害係講一講你, 連香港音樂都死埋, 你估你真係香港樂壇教父呀, 全港第一色士風手咩, 真係無知到極點!

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- LEO, 15:04:47 02/21/06 Tue [1] (NoHost/144.214.196.104)

如果我要學鋼琴, 係咪一定要找李雲迪或者係郎朗做老師就是最好呢?

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- mark VI, 16:30:25 02/21/06 Tue [1] (NoHost/202.73.1.98)

唔係!

我睇過峇Ho既訪問,印像p佳。

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- honesity, 01:13:18 04/09/06 Sun [1] (210006198199.ctinets.com/210.6.198.199)

He is definitely a bad bad bad person. he is cheating all your money. he is a piece of shit...

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- honesity, 01:13:20 04/09/06 Sun [1] (210006198200.ctinets.com/210.6.198.200)

He is definitely a bad bad bad person. he is cheating all your money. he is a piece of shit...

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[> [> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- honesity, 01:15:03 04/09/06 Sun [1] (210006198232.ctinets.com/210.6.198.232)

I mean 音樂堂張sir , he is a piece of shit....he is cheating your money...

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[> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- Candy, 09:51:02 04/24/06 Mon [1] (n218103193064.netvigator.com/218.103.193.64)

That Mr. Cheung ......... forget it la ......... I learnt from him two years ago and he performed "zero" demonostration to me! Besides, I have no idea where he learnt saxophone ..... in Hong Kong? in University? in Art Academy? I asked him and he pretended "hear nothing"! No answer!

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[> [> Re: 為音樂堂張sir申冤 -- honest, 23:36:06 05/08/06 Mon [1] (061238004076.ctinets.com/61.238.4.76)

you right! he is pretending to be a teacher, actually, he is useless...... he used to be a cook, waiter....he is an amateur.. you better let all the HK people know him, don't let him keep cheating money..

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