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Date Posted: Wed, May 16, 11:50:11am CST
Author: Dan McDonough
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Subject: Re: Poll #1
In reply to: perry 's message, "Re: Poll #1" on Wed, May 16, 04:10:33am CST

>>>I will preface this question with a quote from the
>>>yearbook. Under "Breeding Information" the first
>>>paragraph reads: "The breeding of the American
>>>Leopard Cur presents a greater challenge than any
>>>animal alive. The reason the American Leopard Cur
>>>breed is of the quality it is today is because old
>>>time breeders discovered that to try to produce a
>>>ridgid color standard is to destroy ability, which
>>>should be the prime concern of the breeder and buyer,
>>>not looks."
>>>
>>> With that said, my question to you is:
>>>
>>> Should the black pups comming out of the Jug bred
>>>dogs be registered?
>>>
>>> Understand that these are the pups that are all
>black
>>>for those of you who are not farmiliar with them.
>>>They are not pups that have any tan, brindle or any
>>>other color of trim. They do however, more often
>than
>>>not, have some small amount of white points on them.
>>>The white most typically appears as a small white
>>>patch on the chest and possibley some white toes.
>>>
>>> Please respond by giving a yes or no answer and
>feel
>>>free to qualify that answer if you like. Remember,
>>>this is an informal poll and at this point, has no
>>>official weight.
>>
>>
>>>Yes we should register black pups.Here is my reason.I
>>just bred Jazz to Smutt she had six pups that
>>lived.Out of the six pups three were black.I've bred
>>Jazz three previous times and she has never had a
>>black with white chest pup.Jug is the great grandpa on
>>one side so it is my opinion that black is
>>dominant.These black dogs should be registered as long
>>as they have a cur look not a hound look.Jason
>Gentlemen, I hope you are applying this same logic to
>the issue of white??

Perry, the white is a different thing all together. Like with the balck, I don't care if a pup is all white if it were not for a few factors. Ability over color...except: "The most complex of all pairs, the M allele. The locus is named for the merle pattern produced by the heterozygous alleles (Mm) and is characterized by irregular, dark patches against a lighter background that is a mixture of normal and pigment-deficient hairs...When Homozygous MM, the coat is white merle...and often has impaired hearing and fertility." (GENETICS: an introduction for dog breeders) As for the color black, it is a reatively simple pair of alleles that have two parts. One is for the pigment and the other is for the distribution of the pigment. When the distribution is random and clustered the very same pigment appears as brown instead of black. Neither carry any ill side effets like the merle allele. Therefore, it is imposible to discuss the two color paterns together. To put it simpley, black has nothing to do with the dogs ability to perform its job and the white absolutely does. I am however refering to the white caused by the merle allele and not the white caused by the Locus S allele which is responsible for both irish spotting and also piebald. The only difference between those two are completley controlled by modifiers and it's complete function is yet undiscovered in it's heterozygous expression. The only thing that is relative to what we are discussing hear is that both irish spotting and piebald will never have any real effect on the ability of the dog. Neither will black for that matter. The double merle most definately will. Dan McD.

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  • Re: Poll #1 -- 1adam12, Wed, May 16, 06:45:38pm CST
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