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Date Posted: Fri, May 18, 12:21:06am CST
Author: Tommy Prince
Author Host/IP: c-69-180-224-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net / 69.180.224.212
Subject: Re: Poll #1
In reply to: Jason Abbott 's message, "Re: Poll #1" on Thu, May 17, 11:51:19am CST

>>>>>>>I will preface this question with a quote from
>the
>>>>>>>yearbook. Under "Breeding Information" the first
>>>>>>>paragraph reads: "The breeding of the American
>>>>>>>Leopard Cur presents a greater challenge than any
>>>>>>>animal alive. The reason the American Leopard
>Cur
>>>>>>>breed is of the quality it is today is because
>old
>>>>>>>time breeders discovered that to try to produce a
>>>>>>>ridgid color standard is to destroy ability,
>which
>>>>>>>should be the prime concern of the breeder and
>>>>buyer,
>>>>>>>not looks."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With that said, my question to you is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should the black pups comming out of the Jug
>>bred
>>>>>>>dogs be registered?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Understand that these are the pups that are all
>>>>>black
>>>>>>>for those of you who are not farmiliar with
>them.
>>>>>>>They are not pups that have any tan, brindle or
>>any
>>>>>>>other color of trim. They do however, more often
>>>>>than
>>>>>>>not, have some small amount of white points on
>>>>them.
>>>>>>>The white most typically appears as a small white
>>>>>>>patch on the chest and possibley some white toes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please respond by giving a yes or no answer and
>>>>>feel
>>>>>>>free to qualify that answer if you like.
>>Remember,
>>>>>>>this is an informal poll and at this point, has
>no
>>>>>>>official weight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes we should register black pups.Here is my
>>>>reason.I
>>>>>>just bred Jazz to Smutt she had six pups that
>>>>>>lived.Out of the six pups three were black.I've
>>bred
>>>>>>Jazz three previous times and she has never had a
>>>>>>black with white chest pup.Jug is the great
>grandpa
>>>>on
>>>>>>one side so it is my opinion that black is
>>>>>>dominant.These black dogs should be registered as
>>>>long
>>>>>>as they have a cur look not a hound look.Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you have any black & tans?
>>>>
>>>>I don't understand why all the messages in this
>>thread
>>>>can not be viewed without a lot of clicking back and
>>>>forth.
>>>>But, Dan, You said you hope the black color is
>>>>recesive. Remember, recesive is forever. If people
>>>>dont want the black color, you should hope it is
>>>>dominant so that it can be eliminated. You will not
>>>>in your lifetime be able to eliminate a recesive
>>gene.
>>>>
>>>> As far as gathering data: I crossed a
>daughter
>>>>of Jug (black and tan colored) on a grandson of Jug
>>>>(blue merle colored). As you and everyone at the
>'05
>>>>world hunt knows (because I had them penned there
>for
>>>>all to see), four of six of those pups came out pure
>>>>black with a small white blaze on the chest.
>>>
>>>10-4 David. I was thinking about that earlier today
>>>and forgot to post it last time I was on. I was just
>>>outside on the lawnmower and thought I had better
>come
>>>in and put that on here before I get nailed on that
>>>one:). To late!
>>
>>
>>>Dan I had one black and tan.Jason
>
>>I was sitting here looking at my new year book
>decided to look at Breed Standard colors.It has six
>colors black is one of them.On down the paragraph it
>says the black color includes brindle or tan trim.So
>the way I read it you can have a black dog or black
>brindle or black and tan.We know that the solid black
>is coming from the Jug blood.When I breed a dog I
>don't breed for color I breed on their performance.I
>try to fill in what ever faults they have and all dogs
>have faults. I do try to stay away from the white.If I
>could pick a whole litters color they would be black
>brindle or black and tan this includes hi tan just my
>personal prefrence.I also prefer them to have a cur
>look good tight feet,short to medium ear length,and a
>good double coat.Just my prefrence in my dogs.Jason

I like the solid leopard color with as little white as possible. I have seen the solid black colored dogs and must admit they are real good looking. Guess this would be my second choice of color. Doug Garver's Reb is as good looking a dog as I have seen is some time.
tp

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