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Date Posted: Mon, Jun 04, 06:18:10am CST
Author: Dan McD.
Author Host/IP: bal-dr-cas-cisc2-107.dial.airstreamcomm.net / 64.33.181.109
Subject: Re: More Bullshit
In reply to: Perry 's message, "Re: More Bullshit" on Sat, Jun 02, 04:11:45am CST

>>>>>>Well I have been reading these posts since I last
>>>>>>posted ans cant quite believe some of this. First
>>>off
>>>>>>I said that I was interested in the breed and
>>>>>>association and all I got was some off the wall
>>>>>>remarks about, yahoo you are gonna volunteer, so
>>get
>>>>>>out your checkbook and get ready to start mailing
>>>>>>questionaires and other things and get ready to
>>have
>>>>a
>>>>>>large phone bill,seemed somebody was tired of
>doing
>>>>>>these things. Well, like I said ,all I got was an
>>>off
>>>>>>the wall remark, nobody saying give me a call or
>>>>write
>>>>>>me or anything to say what it was I was
>>volunteering
>>>>>>for,in other words I got no help from any one as
>to
>>>>>>what I could do to help out. Thanks a lot. Also I
>>>see
>>>>>>another post on why papers are not important,
>>>>>>something about the registry not sponsoring any
>>>>hunts,
>>>>>>so why support them(that is how I took it)and this
>>>is
>>>>>>from officers of the association. Dont make no
>>sense
>>>>>>to me. Seems to me nobody wants any help and
>>>somebody
>>>>>>doesnt think the registry is important. You know,
>>>>just
>>>>>>really dont know what to think about all this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nick, I didn't say anything about not supporting
>>the
>>>>>ALCBA registry. The pedigrees on dogs can be kept
>by
>>>>>the breeder and it is not necessary to register
>dogs
>>>>>if you don't want to. Some people are just hunters
>>>and
>>>>>want good dogs for their desired game and some just
>>>>>don't want to spend the money. I am going to keep
>>>>>registering my dogs, probably with the ALCBA and
>>UKC,
>>>>>I do like to hunt in the oompetition hunts once in
>>>>>awhile. UKC has some cur and feist hunts for
>>squirrel
>>>>>and coon and I have hunted in several in the past.
>I
>>>>>have made four dogs into nite champions and so have
>>>>>several of the other members. I would still hunt in
>>>>>one once in awhile if they were more close to where
>>I
>>>>>live.
>>>>> I don't know of any registry that donates much of
>>>>>anything to help put on a hunt. There is a lot of
>>>cost
>>>>>involved with trophies and other prizes that are
>>>given
>>>>>away at the hunts. The ALCBA, INC. is just a group
>>of
>>>>>members who are interested in the leopard cur dogs.
>>>>>The ALCBA registration office is a separate entity
>>>>>altogether. The membership, through its volunteers
>>>who
>>>>>sponsor the World Hunt are Indiana, Missouri,
>>>>>Illinois, Ohio and one time Oklahoma sponsored the
>>>>>World hunt, but is was held in Missouri. The Little
>>>>>World Hunt is always sponsored by the Illinois
>>>>>section. Also, each year the Blue Ridge Section
>puts
>>>>>on a hunt in North Carolina and Lamaar Meeks
>>sponsors
>>>>>a hunt in Georgia. These sections take care of
>>>setting
>>>>>up the hunts which takes a lot of work. Someone has
>>>to
>>>>>operate the kitchen, guides are needed, a master of
>>>>>hounds, bench show judges and others to take
>entries
>>>>>and these people receive, little, if any thanks at
>>>>>all. Other states are welcome to sponsor the world
>>>>>hunt, all the association is looking for is
>>>volunteers
>>>>>to have them in their states. I guess the state
>>>>>sections need to become more active. I realize
>that
>>>>>not all members can make it to the world hunt each
>>>and
>>>>>every year for one reason or another. We have
>>members
>>>>>of the association that live in several different
>>>>>states and some in Canada. Most cannot go to the
>>time
>>>>>and expense of making it to the hunts, but many
>just
>>>>>want to belong to something that they beleive will
>>>>>help the promotion of the dogs. Every member has
>>>>>input, all he has to do is drop one of the officers
>>a
>>>>>note in the mail or give one a phone call to
>discuss
>>>>>different issues, or just show up at the world hunt
>>>>>and express your veiws.
>>>>>Most members probably don't realize this, but the
>>>>>color yearbook that the association puts out costs
>>>>>over $4000. Money taken in for membership dues this
>>>>>year is less that three thousand dollars. As you
>can
>>>>>see, the association is losing money on the
>>yearbook.
>>>>>More ads are needed to offset the cost. When the
>>>>>association runs out of money, I assume there will
>>be
>>>>>no more yearbooks unless someone can come up with a
>>>>>better idea.
>>>>>The post about single registering dogs: This has
>>been
>>>>>happening since the registry first got started.
>>>>>Richard McDuffie single registered several dogs in
>>>the
>>>>>beginning and well beyond. If all the stories you
>>>hear
>>>>>about Nimrod, "the foundation of all leopards",
>>being
>>>>>found in Texas running whatever, was he truly a
>>>>>leopard cur or was it just a name attached to a dog
>>>>>because he had leopard spots and short ears? There
>>>>>have been many hounds and different strains of curs
>>>>>registered as leopard curs in the past. I think it
>>>was
>>>>>done mainly to enlarge the gene pool so that there
>>>>>would be less inbreeding and linebreeding. Plott
>>dogs
>>>>>were in the McDuffie strain years ago and some of
>>the
>>>>>farm sheperd blood was put in later on. Just a few
>>>>>years ago some dogs were registered that had
>Treeing
>>>>>Walker and Black Diamond cur in them. I am not sure
>>>>>what the black diamond curs were, but assume that
>>>they
>>>>>were probably Stephen Curs. So are these dogs pure
>>>>>leopard? I don't think so and I can get the
>>paperwork
>>>>>to prove it. Myself, I just want to know that the
>>>dogs
>>>>>that I hunt are leopard curs for at least three or
>>>>>four generations, beyond that I don't really care.
>>If
>>>>>I like the dogs I hunt, I keep them, if not, they
>>are
>>>>>culled!
>>>>>Sure there is a wide variety in color and
>>>conformation
>>>>>of these dogs, but study some of the pedigrees and
>>>>>talk to some of the old timers to find out what the
>>>>>ancient ancestors really were.
>>>>>If you go back far enough, you will find that all
>>>>>breeds of dogs came from WOLVES.
>>>>>That's all for now, but I can always write again.
>>>Dan
>>>>>N
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for writing that Dan, that was very well
>>>>stated.
>>>>
>>>>Mike, when I read your post I was not suprised. It
>>>>was the impression that I hoped would be missed by
>>the
>>>>folks keeping up with this board. It is the
>>>>impression that I got as I read through all of the
>>>>posts. I have talked to most of the individuals on
>>>>this board several or many times and I can say that
>>we
>>>>don't have many good writers (myself included) as
>>much
>>>>of what they say ends up getting mistook. After
>>>>talking with them it seems that their intentions are
>>>>far better than it would seem as you read some of
>the
>>>>posts. I do get the impression that some members
>are
>>>>getting a little weary of carrying the duties of
>>thier
>>>>positions. I can't blame them, I don't want the
>>job,
>>>>mostly because I can't afford it living so far away
>>>>from the core of activity and can't be counted on to
>>>>make all of the meeting right now. Some of them
>have
>>>>been dooing the same jobs for years and years.
>>>>Dedicated...yes! Bulletproof...no. However, if any
>>>>of you have lost the love for your positions,
>retire,
>>>>there will be someone to pick up the slack and I
>>would
>>>>rather see those of you who have given a lot of
>>>>yourselves get back to enjoying your leps. from the
>>>>side line where you can just have fun rather than
>>>>loosing one ounce of love for this breed and
>>>>organization. I have very limited resourses right
>>now
>>>>and will for a while (divorse) but I will do
>anything
>>>>in my power to help. Just ask.
>>>I see you said if someone has lost their love for
>>>their positions, retire!! well the last 3 or 4
>>>worldhunts we have to beg. them to keep their office
>>>as we could not get enyone to take them. mabe we can
>>>get some fresh blood to come and take their turn but
>>>so far all we hear is they want a voice in the ALCBA.
>>>I am not saying enything bad about enyone just the
>>>truth about the officers we have are doing a great
>job
>>>and steering us in the rite way in my book. i am sure
>>>glad to see that we are getting people fired up and
>we
>>>can have the largest worldhunt ever. also I challange
>>>the leopard cur folks to donate to the raffel's and
>>>put more add's in the yearbooks. I really like the
>>>colored yearbooks.
>>
>>Archie, I agree with what you said about the officers
>>and the last world hunt. I may be completely wrong
>>but I got a strong feeling that some of the officers
>>would have liked to had a little relief. I did not
>>get the feeling that they did not like thier jobs but
>>like I said, just my perseption of things. I would
>>have really liked to have thrown my hat in for
>>whatever I could have done to help but I had my mind
>>set to just listen and take things in being that it
>>was my first world hunt and all. Since then I have
>>taken the time to farmiliarize myself with the bylaws,
>>the charter, many members and quite a bit more
>>history. If I can do anything this year, I will be
>>more than happy. Dan McD.
>Dan McD, Please contact Dan Farley. He is more or less
>heading up the hunt this year. I don't think he gets
>on here. If he doesn't have a job for you I am sure he
>will appreciate the offer. I know they can always use
>a hand collecting raffle items. The host section makes
>a little exspense money and everyone seems to enjoy
>the raffle.Perry

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