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Date Posted: Sun, May 13, 09:42:01am CST
Author: perry
Author Host/IP: cache-mtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com / 64.12.117.14
Subject: Re: ALCBA SURVEY/POLL ON STANDARDS
In reply to: Dan McD 's message, "Re: ALCBA SURVEY/POLL ON STANDARDS" on Sun, May 13, 09:13:44am CST

>>>>>>well i just got the Poll On breed standards.[THEY
>>>CAN
>>>>>>ONLY BE CHANGED AT THE WORLD HUNT MEETING} JUST SO
>>>>ALL
>>>>>>MEMBERS KNOW THEY WANT CHANGES THAT IS WHERE IT IS
>>>>>>DONE. NOT BY THE SURVEY. DONT GET ME WRONG THIS IS
>>A
>>>>>>GOOD THING TO GET MEMBERS ACTIVE. AS I SEE THE
>SAME
>>>>>>FOLKS THEIR FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS
>>>>>
>>>>>Archie,
>>>>>
>>>>>The setting and enforcement of standards is under
>>the
>>>>>authority and control of the ALCBA Registration
>>>>>Office,Inc. It is not done at the "World Hunt
>>>>>Meeting". This has been true since the office was
>>>>>incorporated by the first owner of the office many
>>>>>years ago. Whatever is voted on at the "World Hunt"
>>>>>has always been carefully considered by the office
>>(I
>>>>>believe) and Jed and I will, of course, give
>>>>>consideration to anything passed at the annual
>>>>>meeting. The membership has always had a
>significant
>>>>>advisory capacity, but not the control or ability
>to
>>>>>change or set standards.
>>>>>
>>>>>This will not change under the present ownership.
>>Jed
>>>>>and I plan to be at the "World Hunt" this year. Jed
>>>>>was there last year and I had planned to be there
>>>too,
>>>>>but my wife's cancer necessitated my cancelling out
>>a
>>>>>few days before.
>>>>>
>>>>>The small percentage of the membership present at
>>the
>>>>>annual meeting may, or may not, represent the
>>>majority
>>>>>opinion of the membership. Whether you are aware of
>>>it
>>>>>or not, there are many Leopard owners out here in
>>the
>>>>>west, and in the south, far north and east who are
>>>>>being left out entirely. It is a 35-hour drive
>>>one-way
>>>>>for me. It also comes right at the opening of our
>>>bear
>>>>>season here. I was once told by one member that if
>I
>>>>>wanted to have any input that I should get my "lazy
>>>>>ass" to the hunt. That sort of attitude will do
>>>>>nothing to promote our unique and noteworthy breed.
>>I
>>>>>believe that we must be more receptive and
>welcoming
>>>>>to people. (That man, fortunately, is no longer
>>>>>involved with Leopards.)
>>>>>
>>>>>The survey that we have sent out represents the
>very
>>>>>first attempt in the history of the breed to
>>>determine
>>>>>how the entire membership feels. We think that is
>>>>>important. Printing, mailing out and providing
>>>stamped
>>>>>return evelopes cost a considerable sum of money.
>>>That
>>>>>was done entirely by this office, not the
>>>association.
>>>>>Jed and I are anxious to see what people think. We
>>>>>welcome comments, phone calls etc. If anyone has a
>>>>>suggestion, question or just want to talk about our
>>>>>favorite breed, why not call one of us?
>>>>>
>>>>>Please fill out the survey, make any comments you
>>>want
>>>>>and send them back to us.
>>>>>Happy trails,
>>>>>Randy
>>>>
>>>>>I fill that there should be survey's mailed out to
>>>>all members on any big changes.This should be done
>to
>>>>for electing people for committe.This way you get
>>each
>>>>members opinion not just a hand full.This is how the
>>>>OMCBA does there buisness and it's really been
>>good.We
>>>>need to do something to make the ALCBA grow because
>>it
>>>>sure hasn't done much growing over the last 10
>>>>years.These dogs are to good not to be growing.We
>>need
>>>>to work together not work against each other.There
>>are
>>>>different strains of Leopards that work good for
>>>>different people in diffrent areas.So we should not
>>>>put anyone strain down because it's not the same as
>>we
>>>>are hunting.This is just my opinion and a lot of
>>>>others that I have talked with.We would just like to
>>>>see the ALCBA grow. Jason A
>>Please fill out your survey and return it as promptly
>>as possible. I had a couple of the multiple choice
>>questions that did not have a choice I wanted. I made
>>note in that area to reflect my choice. I have spoken
>>with several officers of other breed associations. The
>>mountain cur association was not one of them. I have
>>not found any association that conducts business other
>>than that at membership meetings or executive
>>meetings.They do have commitees that choose
>>nominations for special awards and ballots are sent
>>out to membership for these.( Hall of fame etc)
>>Several noted to me this has a low response rate.
>>While I do agree it is tough for many members to make
>>these meetings at the ALCBA World Hunt we do have
>>fellas from Connecticut, Georgia, and even Canada
>>attend. At the Ohio 2 hunts 14 states and Canada were
>>represented. I think that is a decent cross section of
>>the membership. It is just nearly impossible to suit
>>everyone. Officers and several board members spoke
>>recently and we see a need for an association news
>>letter 1-2 times a year. We have spoken about making
>>the state vice presidents rolls more active. My
>>thoughts on this is to make a contact that each member
>>in that state may feel easier to contact and speak
>>with. I will agree our association membership wise is
>>not where I would like to see it. We have done some
>>growing business wise in the past several years. Alot
>>of this was necessary to be able to address a larger
>>membership. We recently set up an active board of
>>directors. My thoughts were to give officers and the
>>registration support for issues that arrise during any
>>given year. We recently with the help of Paul Wagner
>>became Incorporated and have a published set of
>>by-laws. As with any new venture this may need revised
>>ocassionally. I see this change in ownership as
>>another possibility to grow as an association. We need
>>to try to keep emotions in check which is difficult
>>when the majority of leopard fanciers are as
>>passionate as most of us are.
>> I have also spoken with UKC , Mr Todd Kellam and
>>AKC Mr Steve Fielder for their advise concerning how
>>breed standards are set and thier usefulness.
>>Basically from the correspondence I found breed
>>standards are used for show dogs. They are a guideline
>>to go by. Mr Kellam told me papers were never pulled
>>or registration refused for a failure to meet breed
>>standard. These faults have never kept a dog from
>>competing in a UKC Hunt. They however are used to
>>score a dog in a bench show and in some cases
>>disqualify a dog from a show. The chartered
>>association does dictate the breed standards for the
>>UKC. The Association and Registration need to work
>>together to decide how need to use our standards.
>> We do need to work together the Association and
>>Registration if success is to be achieved. We both
>>need to focus on "LISTENING". Lets face it without
>>active members we are both doomed. I encourage all
>>members and leopard fanciers to contact the
>>registration and the association with concerns. I
>>personally would love to hear from the many members
>>from the ares Randy spoke of that feel left out to get
>>their feelings first hand about some of our present
>>issues. Something I try to live by is " I try not to
>>complain unless I am willing to try to do something to
>>change the situation". Don't set back and grumble.
>>Take the opportunity to make your opinions known. If
>>space is of concern flip the survey over and use the
>>back. If needed get another sheet of paper. Don't let
>>the opportunity to let your voice be heard slip by.
>>ALSO
>> VERY IMPORTANT....
>>IF YOUR SURVEY WAS NOT SENT OUT BEFORE NOON ON
>>SATURDAY YOU WILL NEED TO AD A 2 CENT STAMP. POSTAGE
>>WENT UP AGAIN...
>>Take care, Perry Lambert
>
>Perry, I had spoken to Jed the other day and he had
>brought up the topic of postage. He said that the
>issuance of the correct postage had been accounted for
>and that the stamps should reflect the newer increased
>postage rate so that there were not any hang-ups. Dan
Good deal. I noticed no $ value on the stamos but dropped it in the box without remembering to inquire at the post office. I had a batch of yearbooks to mail in my hands. They should start arriving first part of the week to members. Be patient we are getting them out asap.

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