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Subject: For all 6B boys

Author:
B~

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Date Posted: 21:46:37 01/16/04 Fri

if u hv not check ur intranet mailbox,plx read the below
(it's from miss lam and about
the details of F.6 english group presentation)

Dear 6B,

First of all, let me say an early "Happy Chinese New Year" to you all! Hope you enjoy the holiday.

Concerning the group presentation, you don't need to feel confused as you can really choose any topic you like. For example, if you are interested in exploring "space" or "planets", you can spare a few minutes showing video and pictures to your class with illustrations. You don't need to produce a project as this is just an oral presentation.

Use your creativity to make the presentation more lively!

If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. Also, don't forget to spare some time working on Foundation!

Regards,

Ms Joyce Lam.

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[> Subject: Re: 假冒!
Author: 堂主 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:55:54 01/16/04 Fri 這編通告根本不似中六英文教師所寫的, 此文的水平只屬F.4,5. 致各朋友,假冒人家是很不應該的

[> [> Subject: Re: 明白
Author: 堂主 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:37:49 01/16/04 Fri > 這編通告根本不似中六英文教師所寫的, >此文的水平只屬F.4,5. >致各朋友,假冒人家是很不應該的我明白了,但看上去.....算吧高年班學英文有如潮州音樂,負責教的是什麼水平也不重要.

[> [> [> Subject:

心淡

Author:
B~
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Date Posted: 00:17:59 01/17/04 Sat

>> 這編通告根本不似中六英文教師所寫的,
>>此文的水平只屬F.4,5.
>>致各朋友,假冒人家是很不應該的
>
>我明白了,但看上去.....算吧
>
>高年班學英文有如潮州音樂,負責教的是什麼水平也不重要.

心淡la~唔理你串我定miss,不過堂主你今次令我十分傷心........

reply to morris : i'm not 譚b~~

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 我是指該信,與B~同學無關
Author: 堂主 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:29:49 01/17/04 Sat 我都講過這對學生毫無影響.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: 有咩唔妥
Author: C~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:23:44 01/17/04 Sat 堂主可唔可以指出篇野有咩唔妥??(唔計最頭o個幾行) p.s. 大家估o下B~ 係邊個?

[> Subject: to 堂主, 呢篇野係真gar....

Author:
好仁
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Date Posted: 23:12:18 01/16/04 Fri

堂主, 你今次枉作好人la.

除左"if u hv not check ur intranet mailbox,plx read the below
(it's from miss lam and about
the details of F.6 english group presentation)"
係人為加上去之外, 其他都係真gar, 因為我都o係intra-net 收到。

PS: To B~
我果班有人叫阿B而又上九濟堂gar咩? 我印象中好似譚B唔會上九濟堂個bor....可唔可以上堂時話我知你係邊個ar?

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: D~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:33:56 01/17/04 Sat 豬榮係唔係你呀唔使幫佢講野bor 你發過誓唔鍾joyce lam 個bor 如果唔係就一世Ｘ唔起wor

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 6B (13) 豬榮 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:43:20 01/17/04 Sat 唔係呀係五雷轟頂呀同埋上一次我都係被迫之嘛唔算數架

[> Subject: 堂主,誤會了
Author: 成吉思汗 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:50:25 01/17/04 Sat 堂主,這是真的,因為我也在Intranet收到

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: dragon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:50:39 01/17/04 Sat 夠喇你地有冇聽余sir上堂講架唔好煽風點火假o既唔應該講真o既更加唔應該講戀愛係有自由架

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 輸了... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:34:48 01/17/04 Sat 開始懷疑這堂主也是假冒的

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: kennek [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:20:55 01/17/04 Sat 「堂主」，請你道歉。不然你的公信力就會受損。

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

Author:
Bobby仔
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Date Posted: 20:19:23 01/17/04 Sat

"堂主"先生，今鑊就真係你唔o岩喇，都唔知你有心定無意，但我絕對覺得你應該晌打呢篇留言時查清楚，是否有人冒認miss lam，Miss Lam已經晌星期三無上課，唔能夠交代project事宜，只好以intra-mail告知同學，明顯地，B~同學怕某幾位6B同學平時不check intra-mail，才把mail post上呢度，我唔明白有咩問題，但係我就覺得你既處事手法有問題，一個留言同時串親兩個人(Miss lam同B~同學)，正如Kennek同學所講，你要道歉，不然你的公信力就會受損。

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 一月十七日 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:32:29 01/17/04 Sat 原諒miss lam 吧, 她病了

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 12345 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:28:47 01/17/04 Sat 原諒miss lam 吧, 她病了

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 12345 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:29:57 01/17/04 Sat 原諒miss lam 吧, 她病了

[> Subject:

Re: 一點回應

Author:
堂主
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Date Posted: 22:35:47 01/17/04 Sat

本人起初看到這份通知時,主要是出於對該信的英文水平之懷疑,所以誤以為是有人假冒.因為以往九濟堂亦不止一次有假冒老師的通告出現,更引起不必要的誤會.

而本人已在"明白"一段留言說明我已明白這通告是真有此事. 無可否認,本人當時沒有即時提出道歉,這是本人的過失. 現在本人特此向這位稱為"B~"的熱心同學致歉,希望閣下原諒. 我也同意下一次遇上同一問題時,無論如何亦應先留言向各位求證,方作結論.
本人是絕對歡迎各位使用九濟堂來通訊和交換訊息,但訊息一定要真確.

至於有關該信的語文水平一事,本人是說實話.兼以印象中濟記中四至中七的英文教師之水平作準,經比較後得出來的結論.請問這又有什麼過失呢? 大家要明白這是一份事先草擬好的正規信件.對象是中六B班的全體同學. 而非十分緊急的口頭宣佈.如果大家認為一個濟記中六的英文教師應該咁樣寫編正規信件的話,咁我真是應該衷心道歉.

這是我對這問題的最後回應.

[> [> Subject: Re: 補充
Author: 堂主 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:51:13 01/17/04 Sat 這與所用的英文深淺無關,正所謂"Plain English is the best English!"問題是出於文法, preposition,style(句式)什至連接詞上. 提醒各位, 這些才是英文書寫中最重要的. 對不起,我已說得太多了.畢竟[白頭宮女話當年]是不智的.

[> [> Subject:

唉！作為一位「堂主」，居然......

Author:
不知所謂
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Date Posted: 23:16:34 01/17/04 Sat

其實，作為一位主，除非「危急關頭」，「無可選擇」，否則，根本不宜在「自己地頭」作出評論！

雖然「堂主」作出聲明/道歉，但也就有「解釋即掩飾」之嫌！第一：就那篇「轉載」，我絕對覺得「真實程度大過虛構」，或許「堂主」會堅持：「之前太多類似事件！」但我仍絕對相信之前有更多「留言」的可信性是更低，更離譜的！那為何「堂主」不一一加以評論或批判？是對我們的「Miss」特別敏感，還是心血來潮「口痕」呢？唉......

再者，那麼狠地批判人家的英文水平，試問何德何能呀？又有這樣的必要嗎？還有，該篇「文章」真的那麼不濟嗎？作為一篇簡單交待的「便條」，究竟要怎樣寫才對？「堂主」會作示範嗎？可能「堂主」是舊生，往日學生的英文水平或會比我們這群高中生，甚至我們的老師高，那麼，不如「堂主」自己或找其他人作一篇表達同樣信息，而又似高中英文老師英文水平的參考文章，「堂主」能應允嗎？唉......

「堂主」呀，「堂主」！我個人對你真的很失望啊！或許，你會選擇不作回應（這可能是好事，於你來說是正確的決定！），但若果你仍心有不甘，敬請小心回應，「落筆」之前最好想清楚，當初留言時心中所思所想，否則，再作回應，真的只會令你的「支持者」更加：「唉......」

[> [> Subject:

Re: 一點回應（唉......）

Author:
不知所謂
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Date Posted: 23:34:12 01/17/04 Sat

「以印象中濟記中四至中七的英文教師之水平作準,經比較後得出來的結論」
請問「堂主」的印象是如何建立的呢？難道真的有很多「濟記」的高中英文老師顯露過他們的英文寫作水平？那「堂主」真的「見識廣博」了！可否舉出一些例子以說明之呢？還有，你所說的「比較」準則是如何設定的？啊！你還說是「結論」呢！真「權威」！不過，你是有提及自己是以「印象」來比較的，那麼，你的「印象」是何等的有「殺傷力」啊！

順帶一提，「堂主」，「編」和「篇」是不一樣的，錯這個別字不知會否是「濟記」初中學生的毛病呢？啊！你或許並非真「堂主」！要知道，假扮別人是不應該的啊！：（

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 小弟A [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:50:04 01/17/04 Sat 對不起, 小弟英文水平低劣, 有人可以教我信中o既文法問題?

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 小弟A [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:05:48 01/17/04 Sat 我覺得好似冇乜問題ar.

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 好奇 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:05:59 01/17/04 Sat >對不起, 小弟英文水平低劣, 有人可以教我信中o既文法問題? 我都搵唔到平時miss話我錯o個o的文法,究竟邊度錯?

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: A~Z [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:20:32 01/17/04 Sat yup~ i also think that the letter had nothings special wor~ but it just a message for reminding us, so i believe that there's no need to concern on it any more! lets change the topic~ if this message has any mistake,forgive me~

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 6B [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:24:11 01/17/04 Sat 其實關"正規信件"咩事? 佢只係知道有同學唔明就send封信同大家解釋o下 casual少少有咩問題如果真係要寫封非常正規o既信, 我相信佢絕對冇問題所謂堂主憑呢封野就話人o的英文, 我覺得唔係太應該

[> Subject: 道歉!
Author: B~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:44:20 01/17/04 Sat 算la~ 整件事由我而起! 我為我o既多事向所有受影響人士(miss lam,堂主,all 6B boys)道歉! 大家不必為這事再多作討論了~

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: oldman [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:58:43 01/17/04 Sat 我同意堂主的評論,該通告似"中四五寫的文章". 我不是說"中四五寫的文章"是錯,但作為一個英文老師,對他/她的英文水平有較高的預期是應該的吧. 我認為這篇文章主要不是文法錯,而是行文或用詞怪.你們不明白,大可以給一個native English writer看. 如有冒犯,多多包函.

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Re: For all 6B boys（收聲啦，唔該！）

Author:
不知所謂
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Date Posted: 00:18:04 01/18/04 Sun

明知「冒犯」，點「包」你呀！？

都話叫你地呢D批評人地文筆有問題既做示範，你地就淨係求祈講幾句！你就仲離譜，叫我地搵「native English writer」，你無病係嘛？一係咁啦，如果篇文章真係咁有問題，值得「堂主」同阿「oldman」你地咁堅持，搵乜野「native English writer」就無謂啦，就搵個「濟記」高中英文老師出黎講句野，証實我地個個高中老師（除左被認為有改善空間個位）都係可以寫到「堂主」同阿「oldman」所謂既正規文章啦！

講真，我真係好想close左呢個話題，只要唔好再有人講D無根據既野，又或者有人真係說服到我！

講起就火都黎埋，豈有此理！！

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys~希望這是最後的MESSAGE!
Author: B~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:36:09 01/18/04 Sun 我都話「大家不必為這事再多作討論了~」o絡~ 況且這些事根本就不輪到我們學生(包括堂主&oldman)討論! 除非認為自己的英文水平很高la~

[> Subject: 我不屑!

Author:
華
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Date Posted: 01:10:40 01/18/04 Sun

堂主，係邊位呀? 睇來英文好好wor! 喂，當做proof-reading，改下呢篇野丫唔該! 我唔明一封俾我班同學ge私人信件要點寫先合你心意lor! 係咪要formal d 呀? 親切d ge語氣唔好咩？﹗我唔覺有問題lor! 喂，你英交咩grade 咁巴閉呀?! 如果唔係勁就收收聲啦﹗我好相信miss lam ge 英文唔會差得去邊lor! 你係要話人差ge，講篇野有乜唔好lor，only 講句法唔好咩唔好，我都識up啦，講埋邊度用得唔好得嘛? 你呢個九濟堂堂主，我不屑!

不知所謂!!!

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

Author:
6B
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Date Posted: 12:43:35 01/18/04 Sun

呢個所謂o既堂主
唔該出黎解釋一o下封信有o的咩錯, 而且係要清楚咁指出錯o係邊
措辭有邊度錯, 唔該指出o係邊
大家要知o個篇唔係一篇通告, 只係一封普通o既私人信
o個堂主同oldman咩都唔知, 就出黎話人o的英文level
我都好想知道佢地o既英文有幾勁
我只係覺得佢地係o的自以為是o既人
有o的人恃住係舊生(仲要唔知係咪扮tim)就扮晒pro咁話o的英文只係F4 or F5 level, 又要好串咁話"如果大家認為一個濟記中六的英文教師應該咁樣寫編正規信件的話,咁我真是應該衷心道歉"(即係暗串我地唔識分咩叫好o既英文), 仲話咩"以印象中濟記中四至中七的英文教師之水平作準,經比較後得出來的結論'同埋'文法, preposition,style(句式)什至連接詞上"有問題。個"oldman"就話"行文或用詞怪.你們不明白,大可以給一個native English writer看"。呢o的只係唔使用腦就講得出o既廢話。如果係要批評人，唔該講得清楚o的。
我唔知呢兩個人咁做有咩用心, 但我都希望佢地出黎解釋o下。
解釋唔到o既, 就唔該出黎道歉, 然後收聲。

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Re: 我都講講

Author:
手非長
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Date Posted: 16:14:53 01/18/04 Sun

首先,段落和論點間缺乏如In addition,Finally等的連接詞.
Dear 6B 若寫成Dear 6B students則比較恰當.
let me say an early "Happy Chinese New Year" to you all!
有點Chinese-English之外,to you all應改為 to one and all 或
to all of you較好.

Use your creativity to make the presentation more lively!

If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. Also, don't forget to spare some time working on Foundation!

其實把這兩段調轉比較恰當,因為Use your creativity to make the presentation more lively!似是結尾. 而lively是通常用來形容生物. spare some time working on Foundation!看起來也有點怪. 其實passer-by A所謂的 sounds strange 所指的是所謂的, 是普通中國學生常犯的錯誤.因為我們經常以中文角度來寫和講英文.
然而所謂的英文高底也是在於這.

我勸大家還是不要再要求我們列明錯處,試問一個老師的文章比人咁樣批發.她的感受又是如果,對他的教學信心又有何影響?可謂這樣"平返"可謂無人得益.

我睇師兄們也是一番好意,而且出來工作的確是沒有差不多,casual D得唔得的歌仔唱.即使對方學歷比你底,但你亦絕不能奢望以:
你Alevel英文咩grade呀,我地公司自己信件關鬼你事來回應.
除非你是大老闆,對方是小客戶.哈哈

如有不足,請見諒

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 我都講講
Author: 手非長 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:53:46 01/18/04 Sun Illustrations一句其實可以引申成另一問題~~~Redundancy.唔講唔知,會考高考不少人也死在這裡.重複意思對於一些英文根基好的人來說是蠻反感. 此外,師弟們千萬別要求人家提出其他老師之文章作比較,指名道姓拖其他人落水仍人事上的大忌.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 我都講講(修正)
Author: 手非長 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:39:12 01/19/04 Mon 由於分行問題, 其實passer-by A所謂的 sounds strange 所指的是所謂的, 是普通中國學生常犯的錯誤. 應改成其實passer-by A所謂的 sounds strange 所指的是所謂的Chinese-English, 是普通中國學生常犯的錯誤. 可謂這樣"平返"可謂無人得益. 應改成如此的"平反"可謂無人得益. 對不起

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

Author:
passer-by A
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Date Posted: 15:50:57 01/18/04 Sun

>Please allow me to say something here.
I'm not at any side but just interested in the message posted here which arouses a lot of argument among students.
People may argue that there is no problem about grammar concerning that message. Indeed, you are right. However, a passage or chunks of sentences put together require more than just grammaticality. Consistency in formality is one kind which falls within writing style. I believe what the people argue about the awkwardness of the message lies here. Since the target readers of the message are senior students and the purpose of posting it is to inform students in an informal channel, it is assumed that informal writing style is used to express that purpose. What we see here is mixed syles -- informal as well as formal. That's one difficuly non-native English speakers try hard to cope with. Take the message as an instance, 'Concerning' is a good word to start with a matter, however,when we keep reading the whole paragraph, we might find that there is barely a word compatible with it in terms of formal style. It makes the whole word stands alone and sounds strange. If we use the word 'About' to start the paragraph, it might be more acceptable. Just like what I show you in that paragraph, I use 'chunks' in that close-to-formal paragraph, you might feel uncomfortable to read that word as it is slightly informal.
Second, 'illustrations' shown in the same paragraph does not arouse any grammar problem. Yet, we found similar words appear before it, 'pictures' and 'videos'. These three words all express the same media -- visuality. Moreover, 'illustrations' means pictures or videos (any visual aids) you use to help explain some textual products. Naturally it seems odd to find something repetitive here.
The phrase 'produce a project' sounds strange because the verb and the noun are not a good pair. We tend to more accept the verb 'do'. Again, this is about colloguial use. There may be some kind of hypothetical explanation but I think it may take long to explain.
Lastly, 'Use your creativity to make your presentation more lively!' stands out as one paragraph which makes the whole message quite funny. On the one hand, the tones of the sender are of encouraging and cordial so as to lessen the anxious and intimidated feelings caused by the teachers and the work. On the other hand, we might immediately feel like being threatened when we come across that sentence as it uses command style (use verb of command in the beginning)to address to the same group of people.
What I just opined may be unwelcomed to some people. I would like to apologize for any unpleasantness I arouse here.

[> [> Subject: Re: 是Concerning about ,還是concerning?
Author: F.5 boy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:55:56 01/18/04 Sun 是Concerning about ,還是Concerning? 望師兄回答

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

Author:
有問題
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Date Posted: 20:03:17 01/18/04 Sun

看了這麼久，小弟自問英語水平不高，和passer-by A差得遠了，但批評人其實是很容易的，就拿passer-by A的回應作個例子：
1.>I'm not at any side but just interested in the message
>formal. That's one difficuly non-native English
根據passer-by A的理據，這篇回應的格式是formal的，但好像有些不太formal的地方，如"I'm"，"That's"
2. >we see here is mixed syles -- informal as well as
>formal. That's one difficuly non-native English
>colloguial use. There may be some kind of
以上的句子好像有些字打錯了
3. >People may argue that there is no problem about
>hand, we might immediately feel like being threatened
這篇文章用的是present tense，但上句中用了"might"一詞，passer-by A 是否想說明"immediately feel like being threatened"是very unlikely?
4. >a matter, however,when we keep reading the whole
"however"之前是否該用分號，或開新一句子而用full stop?
5. >explanation but I think it may take long to explain.
根據Cambridge Dictionary的解釋，"take long"主要用在negative sentenses或questions中，如"I'm just writing a letter but it won't take long."
6. >I would like to apologize for any unpleasantness I
在英式英語中，上句如用"apologise"是否較佳?
7. >We tend to more accept the verb 'do'.
上句如改以"to accept the verb do more" 是否較佳?
8. >the tones of the sender are of encouraging and cordial
>so as to lessen the anxious and intimidated feelings
>caused by the teachers and the work. On the other
我們應否刪除第一行"encouraging"之前的"of"?

小弟有個疑問：是否所有英語老師，尤其是教高班的英語老師，寫的任何文章都該毫無破綻?
再者，小弟離開母校後，做事自問不敢偷賴，但撫心自問，所做的大多數事情是可以做得更好的，只是人力有時而窮而已。

如果事事他人都吹毛求疵，小弟今日恐怕已進了精神病院。想當日聖芳濟師生間都是互助互諒，大家都是互相愛護的，為甚麼今天會變成這樣?

再者，小弟曾看過一些報導：英國中學生的文法水平日漸下降，很多學生都不能寫complete sentenses。而且最近又有報導指有些外籍英語教師亦不能在評核試中取得合格。那麼，native English speakers寫的英文又是否真的無可挑剔?從另一角度看，中國人寫的中文是否又不會有錯?

鴉片戰爭百多年後的今日，「崇洋」這個現象還是處處可見吧!

小弟不是想怪責任何人，只是希望大家多點包容和寬恕吧!

[> [> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 有問題 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:18:03 01/18/04 Sun 對不起，小弟不知按錯了甚麼鍵而重複把同一留言留了三次之多，請堂主把前兩個刪去。

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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W -InD(7C12)
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Date Posted: 18:53:51 01/19/04 Mon

3. >People may argue that there is no problem about
>hand, we might immediately feel like being threatened
這篇文章用的是present tense，但上句中用了"might"一詞，passer-by A 是否想說明"immediately feel like being threatened"是very unlikely?

=.= might 是可以的...不是指用past tense

4. >a matter, however,when we keep reading the whole
"however"之前是否該用分號，或開新一句子而用full stop?

如果你要傳統的英文的話,的確however前應該用full stop。不過,我不覺得回應都要用傳統英文。

5. >explanation but I think it may take long to explain.
根據Cambridge Dictionary的解釋，"take long"主要用在negative sentenses或questions中，如"I'm just writing a letter but it won't take long."

你都識講是主要用在negative "sentences"。唔是negative就唔用得??

6. >I would like to apologize for any unpleasantness I
在英式英語中，上句如用"apologise"是否較佳?

=.=現在是兩字相通,再說一次,回應別人不用用上傳統英式英語。

7. >We tend to more accept the verb 'do'.
上句如改以"to accept the verb do more" 是否較佳?

沒分別,more作為adv可放在 accept此word前。
在語氣方面應該為更好。

我對此事沒有意見,只是覺得"有問題"的回覆有問題而已。
自問英文不好，不願多評。如果我有錯，請多多指教
的確批評別人容易,接受批評很難吧？

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 有問題

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passer-by A
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Date Posted: 22:36:47 01/19/04 Mon

Thank you for taking time to read my stuff and raising interesting questions. At least, it shows that students are still interested in English and can go beyond surface. That's good to Hong Kong.
By the way, 'concerning' is used when we introduce a topic. It is usually put at the start of a paragraph. However, 'be concerned about' is used when you express your care about the matter or the person. There is no phrase like 'concerning about'

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 冷靜! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:01:32 01/18/04 Sun 哈, 小小的一篇通告竟能釀起如此風波. 對於一個中六教UE的老師來說, 封信看似有點水皮. 但各位必需明白這封物體只是簡簡單單的通知, 目的是向6B提醒新年要做的功課, 而並非作文比賽, 只要清楚無誤地表達目的便可. 實在地說, 聖芳濟的學生是應要求老師更多

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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oldman
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Date Posted: 17:02:45 01/18/04 Sun

綜合各人意見,我的總結是:
1. 同學們十分尊師重道.
2. 九濟堂有英文好的人(如passer-by A, 手非長).
3. 九濟堂也有我這一個多事的人.

這次事件,也使我聯想起這兩課課文(課文名稱我早已回贈中文老師了):
1. 實用畫與藝術畫.
2. 差不多先生.

另外,讓我再故作高深,引述一下莊子的話:
"瞽者,無以與乎文章之觀,聾者,無以與乎鐘鼓之聲. 豈唯形骸有聾盲哉! 夫知亦有之."

[> [> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: WOO [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:25:10 01/18/04 Sun 我不屑你~

[> Subject:

堂主做錯左d咩呢..................

Author:
你估下先?
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Date Posted: 18:43:11 01/18/04 Sun

我覺得堂主係呢件事上面做錯左好多野.......
第一,太為同學設想......恐怕同學被人欺騙,好心提醒,呢一錯正係『好心作雷劈』...
第二,唔應該不平則嗚,明明覺得唔岩都唔應該講,呢d先係「不知所謂」,「6C」,「華」三人所要求既堂主......
第三.愚不可及,比人如此糾纏不清,都唔識話關左佢既......
第四,淨係啞忍,受到惡意挑釁仍忍氣吞聲,毫無堂主之風......
第五,此乃最根本之錯.....點解你要開九濟堂呢??
此皆乃堂主之錯乎??
你估下先?必支持堂主.......

[> Subject: 道歉...........文中打錯左「6C」,應該係「6B」
Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:57:40 01/18/04 Sun 如果道歉都唔得既........比埋條命你好唔好...... 堂主都道左歉啦.....駛唔駛讓埋個位比你地呀?? 你地咁犀利,又唔見你地講野好有point??(個人意見) 至此....我已經講完我所講啦........唔駛回應啦

[> Subject: 公道自在人心~堂主做得岩唔岩大家都心中有數．

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re:你估下先?
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Date Posted: 20:21:39 01/18/04 Sun

公道自在人心~堂主做得岩唔岩大家都心中有數．

re:你估下先?
如果道歉都唔得既........比埋條命你好唔好......
↑可見你都幾野蠻，道歉唔得就要比埋條命人？
堂主都道左歉啦.....駛唔駛讓埋個位比你地呀??
↑佢個道歉都真係十分冇歉意law，起碼我feel唔到．
你地咁犀利,又唔見你地講野好有point??(個人意見)
↑請指出邊度無point．你咁講就真係好無point同空洞喇．
至此....我已經講完我所講啦........唔駛回應啦
↑咁即係咩意思呀？講完鬆人呀?真係勁架你．

[> [> Subject: Re: 公道自在人心~堂主做得岩唔岩大家都心中有數．
Author: 華 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:35:07 01/18/04 Sun 呢d 人，唉...一封提示，我真係唔知要點寫lor...寫篇article 出來好唔好呀？滿意未？喂，south china morning post 唔夠呀，time 好似好d wor，fax lor 好唔好呀？聖芳濟有d 咁ge 舊生，我不恥呀﹗

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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~~~~~~B
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Date Posted: 20:48:56 01/18/04 Sun

你寫出黎都係想人回應姐
唔使講反話o既
1. 好心做壞事o既例子多不勝數, 做野講野之前唔該諗清楚
2. 不平則嗚都要有point先得架
3. 我地唔係糾纏不清, 只係想搞清楚個問題
4. 根本冇人惡意挑釁, 唔通想搞清楚個問題都唔得?
5. 唔該, 唔好搞埋晒o的死gag

另外, 個堂主表面上係有道歉, 但係實質上係冇, 所以唔存在
"堂主都道左歉啦.....駛唔駛讓埋個位比你地呀??"o既問題

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Re: 你地仲有無過份點呀

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老兵
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Date Posted: 22:08:06 01/18/04 Sun

中六了,你們竟然咁黑白不分.明明是封通告有問題,竟然仲話是有人存心針對某老師.我就認為堂主對轉寄留言的B~同學道歉便足夠,根本無理由向該老師道歉. 因為通告中的錯誤明顯是出自這位Miss的.道歉的反而應該是她. 再講,堂主是舊生,見都未見過這位Miss Lam.為什麼佢要加害她呀. 我亦同意封通告確不似高中英文科教師的手筆.

你地如果認為公道自在人心的,咁我寄封信去一些客觀的傳媒例如南華早報,好讓他們評理.到時大家一定要證明這封信是確有此事.好讓局外人客觀地評理. 看看有多少人幫這位老師,有多少人幫我們這班舊生. 讓人家看看濟記學生是怎樣的成熟,怎樣的明對錯.

無錯,我認為我們這些包括堂主在內舊生的確犯錯.錯在不嚴守不在其位,不謀其政之原則.既然師弟認為這樣是應該的,我們應該隻眼開,隻眼閉.還指證出錯誤幹麼.他們的重點是認為這樣發通
告是casual和親切的表現,可以接受.咁迷由佢地抱咁既態度law.
他們也非有心知道到底錯什麼.否則為何部份錯處
被指出後,仲有人認為檢舉者唔夠有point.

其實我覺得抽絲剝繭地指出通告錯誤者是簡接地好心做壞事,因為這樣說服不了人家之餘,更令犯錯的老師更難下台.試問自己一段字數不多的文章俾外人當眾遂個錯處捉出來,感受真的可想而知.反而只是被簡單地說明了錯誤可能更易下台.

我就支持堂主唔好理佢地,無人的意見是可以符合所有人的.此外,
同學們對一些老師的過失可以窮追不捨,用上數十什至更多的留言批評. 而對此事卻可以抱差不多先生心態,我對師弟的標準真是大惑不解.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 你地仲有無過份點呀
Author: 華 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:37:09 01/18/04 Sun 你告老歸田啦，有你呢d sfxc 舊生，我不恥!

[> [> [> [> Subject: 唔好咁偏激...
Author: @o@ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:07:05 01/18/04 Sun 你不恥別人時,別人也未必認同你的行為既用別名,在此抒發自己主觀意願又有何用? >你告老歸田啦，有你呢d sfxc 舊生，我不恥!

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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A~Z
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Date Posted: 23:02:33 01/18/04 Sun

相信大家都有留過便條給家人,唔知大家又會唔會留意文法o架呢?
與這件事一樣,那message只不過係miss給6B boys ONLY o既便條,
那又何雖如此注意文法呢?

Also,其實一開始篇message o既 subject 已注明"For all 6B boys"
那麼又關"非6B boys"o既人咩事呢?

我相信all 6B boys都覺得篇message無問題!

>因為通告中的錯誤明顯是出自這位Miss的.道歉的反而應該是她.
使唔使道歉咁嚴重呀?有病呀!

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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A
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Date Posted: 23:06:59 01/18/04 Sun

算罷la, 大家再討論下去, 苦了的只是Miss, 其實舊生門及F.6的同學都是想SFXC更好. 舊生都係想Miss改善其表達方法及用詞, 怕我們被教差, 為我們F.6同學著想. 其實舊生要相信BA的眼光, 何況英文勁=好老師?(Mr Kwan??) 我個人認為Miss教得ok呀!
另一方面, 批抨可以是進步的動力, 同學仔的保護主義未免太重了, 學校需要增值, 老師又怎能故步自封呢!

[> Subject: 我覺得...

Author:
YTK
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Date Posted: 00:43:44 01/19/04 Mon

我覺得有些中六的同學發言很有氣派(我希望佢唔係中六...)，唔知道同D舊生面對面講又會點呢?

其實堂主都係出於好心，佢發覺篇o野唔妥，而內容又包括指令("any topic you like")，抱持懷疑心態都好正常。
而佢亦都就作出錯誤的干擾而道歉了，究竟仲有o羊值得被口誅筆伐?

有人話:" 個堂主表面上係有道歉, 但係實質上係冇"
堂主絕對已經道o左歉，只是就該信的語文水平與某些中六同學產生分歧而已。(請閱讀並理解堂主的最後回應)
而我亦相信一封由老師發俾學生的'功課指示信'裏面，要求高一點並不構成吹毛求疵。

不過，如果我係6B，收到封信都唔會覺得有問題。

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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6B
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Date Posted: 15:58:05 01/19/04 Mon

大部份6Bo既人都只係覺得封信係便條或者私人信(我唔明點解呢一封信一定係通告, 而唔可以係其他野), miss 並不是非常嚴謹的去寫。
但係有o的人就藉呢封野就批評miss o的英文level, 所以我地覺得對miss唔公平, 於是就作出反駁, 希望討回公道, 並唔係糾纏不清,惡意挑釁。我唔覺咁係有問題lor。好可惜, 我地因為咁就比人批評為"黑白不分", 仲有人話miss應該道歉, 真係令人憤怒。

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys

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6B
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其實, 讀到中六, 唔通連通告應該係點都唔知咩? 如果miss係咁寫通告 o既話, 我地都會好失望。但問題係 --->呢封唔係通告<---, 所以我地覺得各位o既指控完全係吹毛求疵。
我地同miss就係咁溝通, 局外人可能唔明, 但係就冇理由批評我地。
至於有人話我地差不多先生心態, 保護主義太重, 話要寄封信去南華早報, 我只係感到無奈同可笑, 我真係唔明有咩關係。如果各位唔同意呢一封係便條或者私人信, 就請唔好再回應喇, 我地根本冇辦法o係咁o既基礎上討論。一方人話係通告, 一方人話係私人信, 咁點討論呀?我希望各位睇完呢一篇post後, 可以停止討論吧!

[> Subject: 我認為
Author: 唔知 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:59:02 01/19/04 Mon >if u hv not check ur intranet mailbox,plx read the >below >(it's from miss lam and about > the details of F.6 english group presentation) 我認為係有人係intranet 睇完後好心加左上面果段野o黎話比大家知要做d咩

[> [> Subject: Re: 我認為
Author: B [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:12:50 01/19/04 Mon 我諗呢一點，大家都是知道的......

[> Subject: 致:回覆我既同學..................
Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:51:17 01/30/04 Fri 各位同學......請唔好誤會,我確實無呢個欲拒還迎之意....因為你地確實係唔配既...........仲有....我無搞過咩死gag....唔好賴醒啦...真係好醒唔醒係度扮機警............

[> [> Subject: Re: 致:回覆我既同學..................
Author: 條友好煩 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:03:24 01/30/04 Fri 封信一開始就寫明"for all 6B boys" 都唔明d無聊人點解係都要叉把口埋黎說三道四. 都算喇,過左去喇... 現在又要再"搭訕",你估你係咩咩大人物呀,收聲啦.依度無你既事.

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: 收聲啦 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:10:59 01/30/04 Fri 得喇 ~ 知你好醒喇 ~ 知你好機警喇 ~ 個個都已經唔再講,你都要繼續挑起呢個話題你有咩居心仲有, 拜託, 用下你個腦啦係講都唔好講埋d咩"真係好醒唔醒係度扮機警" 你係咪覺得你講左句咁既野就好勁呀?

[> Subject: 可笑~~~~

Author:
L.T
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Date Posted: 22:59:59 01/30/04 Fri

身為低form的學弟,看見一班身為高form的學兄在互相"激烈辯論",
我感到非常之無聊,
我的意思不是話你們無聊,
而是話你們所辯論的題目無聊!

我也不明,你們(form 6 student)都已經差不多二十歲ga la,
重為o左一封信而噤執著,唉........................
其實你讓一句,佢退一句,就咩事都冇啦~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

[> [> Subject: 你說得對
Author: 6B Pure Maths Group [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:46:05 01/31/04 Sat 身為6B人,對於我們的某些無聊膚淺的言論感到慚愧. 袁老師,我們班是一整體,不可分離,有人做錯,就請懲罰我們吧!

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 你說得對
Author: 呢d人太卑鄙lar [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:29:58 02/01/04 Sun 竟然扮6B既人真係太過份喇

[> Subject: 夠喇～扮咩野呀

Author:
唔好扮人
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Date Posted: 17:23:44 02/01/04 Sun

你說得對中的6B Pure Maths Group．．．
真係唔話佢係扮6B既都唔得．．．
你既言論好明顯係想拖我地成班落水～邊會有d咁既二互仔架～
堂主都話扮人係唔岩架啦～你仲要扮？
給L.T：
其實都係一句，事情唔係發生係你身上梗係可以好易講．．．如果真係可以咁易讓一句就唔會日日都有咁多爭論啦～
面對無理既批評你可以咁輕鬆咩？
你覺得無聊大可不理，又無人迫你睇～

[> [> Subject: Re: 夠喇～扮咩野呀

Author:
睇唔過眼
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Date Posted: 15:54:56 02/15/04 Sun

你們這幫垃圾也只懂得維護miss lam，既然堂主道了歉便算吧，你地未試過錯咩，你地可能會話堂主用詞帶侮辱性，但係佢開頭係並唔知呢封信係真，佢既意見當然係以假信作結論la，堂主用詞唔好，你地咁樣鬧人更唔好，你地將堂主踩到仲衰過地底泥，講真，你地仲衰過低form果班見人就張口鬧人既師弟喎，上面提及到此文章係好casual咁寫，但係以常人直覺黎睇，老師寫英文無論幾casual都好，都會有佢應有既地方掛?再者你地無需要為呢件事再鬧堂主吧，佢已經道左歉了，回果個「不知所謂」的不知所謂，你講到話「
搵個「濟記」高中英文老師出黎講句野，証實我地個個高中老師（除左被認為有改善空間個位）都係可以寫到「堂主」同阿「oldman」所謂既正規文章啦！」就算呢位「高中英文老師」寫到又代表D咩?佢已經寫錯左呢篇文章喇喎，有陣時有D野，過得自己過得人地就得了

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 夠喇～扮咩野呀

Author:
6B一份子
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Date Posted: 17:26:14 02/15/04 Sun

>你們這幫垃圾也只懂得維護miss
>lam，既然堂主道了歉便算吧，你地未試過錯咩，你地可能會話
>堂主用詞帶侮辱性，但係佢開頭係並唔知呢封信係真，佢既意?>ㄦ穔M係以假信作結論la，堂主用詞唔好，你地咁樣鬧人更唔好
>，你地將堂主踩到仲衰過地底泥，講真，你地仲衰過低form果?>Z見人就張口鬧人既師弟喎，上面提及到此文章係好casual咁寫
>，但係以常人直覺黎睇，老師寫英文無論幾casual都好，都會?>傘\應有既地方掛?再者你地無需要為呢件事再鬧堂主吧，佢已?>g道左歉了，回果個「不知所謂」的不知所謂，你講到話「
>搵個「濟記」高中英文老師出黎講句野，証實我地個個高中老?>v（除左被認為有改善空間個位）都係可以寫到「堂主」同阿「
>oldman」所謂既正規文章啦！」就算呢位「高中英文老師」寫?>鴗S代表D咩?佢已經寫錯左呢篇文章喇喎，有陣時有D野，過得?>菑v過得人地就得了

>你們這幫垃圾也只懂得維護miss
唔該你睇清楚!我地有刻意維護miss嗎?
還有,維護miss不對嗎?mud miss(or 阿sir)不值得你去維護o羊?
我地當中都有對事不對人的
你怎能一概而論,仲話我地係垃圾
>堂主用詞唔好，你地咁樣鬧人更唔好
你不也是在鬧人麼?
>佢已經道左歉了
mud堂主有道過歉o羊?
醒d啦,老友!

仲有,本來件事己經正式完結o左
你家陣又拎番出來講
你係o米唯恐天下不亂???

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唔好人地一講就話人舊事重提.........................

Author:
你估下先?
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Date Posted: 18:34:05 02/15/04 Sun

我之所以而家先講係因為我好耐無上過黎......唔係想舊事重提...不過我真係好奇怪點解你地次次話人舊事重提,但係又次次好快咁回應......除非你地日日留意注,一有人反對你地就話人舊事重提,以封孜孜眾口......真正唔想舊事重提就應該咩都唔好講........
我唔想再多講.....以前同你地爭鋒相對實在係我既不智....
所謂「君子力如牛,不與牛爭力;走如馬,不與馬爭走」....所以我投降啦........

[> [> Subject: Re: 唔好人地一講就話人舊事重提.........................

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6B
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Date Posted: 20:31:30 02/15/04 Sun

>我之所以而家先講係因為我好耐無上過黎......
無錯，好耐無見你留言!

>唔係想舊事重提...
你既用意，心照啦...

>不過我真係好奇怪點解你地次次話人舊事重提,
>但係又次次好快咁回應......
無直接關係，我地話人舊事重提，唔代表我地唔可以每分鐘都check下有無新留言，回覆只是留言者對同學的留言有意見，而回覆速度又有何關係？

>除非你地日日留意注,
>一有人反對你地就話人舊事重提,
>以封孜孜眾口......
每天留意九濟堂，有何壞處？難道你反對大家上黎呢度？咁你上黎做咩？唔係你習慣好耐唔上，個個都要好似你咁！
仲有，我唔覺得我地係"反對你地就話人舊事重提"，你check下留言日期，便知留言者動機為何。

>真正唔想舊事重提就應該咩都唔好講........
咁你又出聲黎做咩？我地都好耐無出聲啦，篇野都就黎去到第二頁啦...本來事件已告一段落，點知你又整篇野黎推翻起佢，咁你叫人點樣唔出聲話滋事者呀!?

>我唔想再多講.....
快D收聲，唔該!

>以前同你地爭鋒相對實在係我既不智....
>所謂「君子力如牛,不與牛爭力;走如馬,不與馬爭走」....
>所以我投降啦........
拜拜~~

[> Subject: Please change topic la
Author: PLEASE [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:48:14 02/16/04 Mon Please change topic la

[> Subject: Re: For all 6B boys
Author: YEAH MAN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:01:56 02/16/04 Mon Totally agree stop this topic