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Date Posted: 12:23:27 11/11/03 Tue
Author: Joe F.
Author Host/IP: dial-bu-185-108.wcnet.org / 157.134.185.108
Subject: Re: birders kicked off port authority property at Sager road
In reply to: gcottier 's message, "Re: birders kicked off port authority property at Sager road" on 19:54:57 11/08/03 Sat

I bring this up because a deer stand is located south
>of sager in the park just off the forbidden lands
>(goldenrod meadow); The access to the deer stand is a
>path mowed !!through the port suthority property and
>into the park. This path connects to one of the dirt
>roads chained off and marked "authorized Personnel
>only". The stand is in the park and faces into the
>woods. Binoculars are a security risk? but deer
>hunters invited? by the port authority to use what
>appears to be an illegal deer stand are not??
While I am not the supreme authority on what happens in and around Oak Openings, I will shed as much light on this as possible. After several birders told me they were being kicked off Sager by officers toting M-16s, I called the Port Authority to get their explanation. The told me the Guard Base was helping with airport security and they have orders not to allow people to stop/park on Sager. I made the park manager and the chief of rangers (Dave Parker) aware of the issue. Parker contacted the Port Authority/Guard Base to discuss the matter. He was told that Bax is considered a terrorist target. After the shipment of shoulder launched grenades was intercepted at the Canadian border eariler this year, it was decided that cars parked along Sager posed a significant threat to airport security. As for the hunters, each one is appearantly "checked out" by the Port Authority Police and issued a permit to hunt (both deer and turkey) in the area. There is appearantly talk of closing Sager Rd. completely. While I agree with Greg that this is completely unacceptable, my hands are pretty much tied as long as my chief goes along with what the Port Authority declares necessary. I think TNA would be a perfect group to bring this issue to the public eye. I will try to be as much help as possible and will pass on any new information that surfaces. As for the deer stand, it has been a problem in the past and I will address it personally. Thanks for the heads up. Feel free to contact the park district administration directly. Dave Parker - Chief of Rangers or Jim Spengler - Park District Director

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