Re: Potential 3 point Rule -- United Hunters of Florida (UHF)

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Date Posted: 04/19/07 1:57:44am
Author: Russ Chastain
Subject: Re: Potential 3 point Rule
In reply to: Wayne Davis 's message, "Re: Potential 3 point Rule" on 04/18/07 10:26:17am

Very good points, Wayne. Florida's wildlife managers need to wake up and take some kinds of measures to see if we can't start to emulate the great success stories we've seen in so many other states due to better understanding of deer numbers, buck/doe ratios, and such that the past couple decades of "whitetail science" has brought us.

Just adding antler restrictions doesn't cut it. If you force a hunter to let antlered bucks walk, you'd better be prepared to let him kill a doe if he has the chance. And, it's good for the herd - so the hunters and the deer both win.

Russ

>Casey,
>
>To answer your question as to if it's a good or bad
>thing depends on wheather your talking about the
>hunters or the deer. As far as the hunters go about
>half will like it and the other half will not. The
>reasons will very, just as Tom has already
>mentioned.....not enoungh doe harvest, and private
>land hunters getting to shot the spikes and does.
>
>As far as the deer herd goes it probably will not make
>a lot of difference if all the FWC is going to do on
>these WMA's is change the antler restrictions from 5"
>to 3 points on a side. To make the hunting better on
>these area's the FWC will also need to put a one buck
>per permit limit and balance the buck to doe ratio
>with more doe harvest.
>
> Example: One of the WMA's that you listed is Jennings
>Forest. According to the Biologist the buck to doe
>ratio is about 10 to 1. That's 10 does to one buck!
>Jennings has been managed as a so called quality hunt
>area since the mid to late nineties. Hunter numbers
>have been kept low, by only issuing 60 permits per gun
>hunt (this WMA is 20,000 acres and only has three gun
>hunts a year and thats inclucding a muzzleloading
>hunt). It also has a One deer per quota permit and in
>recent years a small amount of doe permits have been
>issued. Even with those restrictions we still have a
>10 to 1 ratio. We can only image what our other WMA's
>are. So to me it's quite obvious that more doe harvest
>is needed on this WMA'a and I'm sure on many other
>WMA's.
>
>So unless the FWC is going to change some other rules
>on these WMA's and permit more doe harvest I can't see
>were the hunting on these WMA's is going to impove
>much. You will bascically be harvesting the same
>amount of bucks. The difference will be body and
>antler size, which isn't all bad.
>
>Personally I think 3 points on one side is a step in
>the right directions, but without an effort to balnace
>the buck to doe ratio most hunters are not going to
>like it.
>
>When talking to the FWC about doe harvest they always
>say that we have to be very carefull because we have
>some of the poorest habitat in the country. So why do
>they think our deer herd can stand a two buck a day
>limit and bascially no season limit. This is the
>problem with the FWC, they are trying to make everyone
>happy and forgetting about managing for the good of
>the deer herd?

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Replies:

Re: Potential 3 point Rule -- Casey, 04/19/07 7:59:32am
- Re: Potential 3 point Rule -- wayne davis, 04/19/07 2:49:34pm
- Re: Potential 3 point Rule -- Russ Chastain, 04/20/07 10:11:38pm
  - Re: Potential 3 point Rule -- Markm, 04/22/07 10:46:50am