Re: Changes to Quota Hunt Program -- United Hunters of Florida (UHF)

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Date Posted: 07/26/07 1:32:45pm
Author: Jim
Subject: Re: Changes to Quota Hunt Program
In reply to: gladeshunter 's message, "Re: Changes to Quota Hunt Program" on 07/25/07 8:28:53pm

>>
>>One a year, Many hunters will be done in Archery or
>>muzzleloader season!
>>
>>We have Three different methods of hunting, so three
>>Bucks per year would be a better number, atleast this
>>way you can still hunt all three methods of hunting! I
>>know quite a few hunters who get two a year, also, we
>>have to think about the cost associated with hunting,
>>lower the the bag limit may have a big affect on the
>>hunting paraphinalia purchases!
>>
>>What about making the three point rule effective only
>>during Gun season and leave Archery and muzzleloader
>>alone?
>>
>>I like the idea of splitting up some of these Hunts
>>that exceed 4 days, which is a good amount of time to
>>spend in the woods, two days I think is not enough
>>time especially when you don't get a chance to scout
>>the area! If it rains or you have something come up on
>>one of those days your out of luck!
>>
>>The average amount of hunters hunting any one hunt
>>would have a better percentage of show-ups, as it is
>>now, the average is 50 percent of the hunters who got
>>picked show up!
>>
>>Some of the times hunting take place has to do with
>>Station manning ... If we spread the hunting days out
>>that should take care of this.....
>>
>>Everyone points out how we have alot of hunting days,
>>only the WMAs that are open year round allow you to
>>hunt during the week, SC has their season starting in
>>August and ending in january, if you looked at the
>>actual hunt days you are in the woods each of those
>>Months, it doesn't add up to alot especially for
>>WMAs...
>>
>>I don't want to see a shortened season...
>>
>>Deer aren't scared, seen three deer in the shopping
>>plaza parking lot of Viera, that's a new town just
>>north of melbourne (dudas ranch) off 95! looks like
>>their fighting back!LOL
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>>Casey,
>>>
>>>Your right, it's not the best answer to stop gaming
>>>(that would be non-transferabe permits), but as mark
>>>say's it's just one treak to the system to make it
>>>better. As far as non-transferable or one choice, I
>>>could live with either. I think the 1 choice would be
>>>more appealing to most hunters.
>>>
>>>Other things that could also help are:
>>>
>>>1. 1 buck bag limit per year, on WMA's. This could
>>>allow for longer hunting seasons on the WMA's that
>>>have short seasons by liniting the harvest and
>>>spreading the deer harvest out among hunters. I'm
>sure
>>>this would not be popular with a lot of hunters, but
>>>how many now harvest more than one buck per year.
>Also
>>>with this you would not need a 3pt rule, because alot
>>>of hunters would pass on small bucks to extend there
>>>buck hunting time. I think this is why the 2 buck bag
>>>limit in Georgia worked so well, even before they had
>>>a 4pt. on a side rule and all the doe hunting that
>>>they now have.
>>>
>>>2. Mark's suggestion.....one buck per hunter per
>hunt.
>>>This would also go a long way in not needing a 3pts
>on
>>>a side rule.
>>>
>>>3. Maximize the number of quota's issued for all the
>>>WMA's that have short gun hunts by making them all 3
>>>day hunts. As it is now, some area's have gun hunts
>>>that range from 3 to 9 days. By breaking up the hunts
>>>you are able to issue more permits per season.
>>>Example....Jennings WMA has two gun hunts per year.
>>>One is 9 days the other 7 days, for a total of 16
>>>days. Each gun hunt has 60 permits, which is a total
>>>of 120 permits per year for gun hunts. If the two gun
>>>hunts were split into 5 - 3day hunts (a total of 15
>>>days) you would have a total of 300 permits issued
>>>each year for gun hunting. This would allow an
>>>additional 180 hunters the chance to hunt this area.
>>>This would also cut down on no shows because most
>>>hunters only have time or choose to hunt the first
>few
>>>days. This could also be applied to WMA's that have
>>>quota's for the first 9 days. By spliting up the
>first
>>>9 days you could double the permits issued for these
>>>area's and cut down on a lot of no shows.
>>>
>>>4. Have the hunts on WMA's held on the same days as
>>>much as possible. I know this well vary by parts of
>>>the state, but I think it might help cut down on some
>>>gaming and spread the hunting pressure out.
>
>>> Mark if the preference went non-transferrable thee
>would be many more permits available for the 2nd draw
>as the "extra" chances that are being put in will be
>eliminated. Just for myself there would be 7 less apps
>going in for the preference draw and I know folks who
>do 3 times that. Unlike a lot of others I only put in
>1 choice, I do not want a bunch of junk to trade and
>if I don't get the area I want I hunt my lease in
>Alabama. Unfortunately I will not get to hunt Florida
>this year but hey it happens .
>In my opinion preference should be non with only 1
>choice available per app, pick the place and hunt you
>really want. All the rest can be transferrable or if
>non-transferrable allow you to get as many as you want
>in your own name.
>I am all for splitting up those long quotas into
>shorter ones, i have been advocating this for years,
>It allows more people to hunt and after all this is
>what it's all about.
>Go to a 3point one side rule and a 3 buck per season
>rule the entire state including the Everglades region.
>For God's sake Alabama went from a 1 buck per day,
>bare antler above the hairline to a 3 buck rule and 1
>has to be 4 on a side.
>As for special opps, how special is it really? The guy
>with the most money wins! Make it non-transferrable
>and make it a mandatory 1 year sit out if you get
>drawn. this way differnet people would get to hunt
>these areas every year not the same handful that get
>them every year.

I like some of your ideas. Especially the Non-transferrable and 1 year mandatory elimination from SOH's if you got chosen last year. That would even the playing field a little with SOH's.

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