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Date Posted: Fri, Jun 24, 10:38:47am
Author: Slurp!!!
Subject: me too!!!
In reply to: Flex Hammer 's message, "I've got a bad feeling about this." on Fri, Jun 24, 09:58:03am


>The movie was quite a bit better than Episode II.
>Better than Episode I as well. And I don't think I
>would have needed to see either movie to watch this
>one. Which kind of begs the question, why bother with
>the other two? Whatever.

I agree, you don't need to see the first two to grok out what is going on in this one. Why bother with the other two you ask?

Why to make George rich of course..



>The basic story that is there (awesomely cool Jedi
>goes bad to save girl, winds up killing girl, but
>spawns hope for all) is workable. While everything is
>pretty convoluted, some of what the Emperor is doing
>finally makes a little more sense here.

I agree with the whole Emperor story. Actually his performance was the best of the lot. Listening to him would make me want to become a Sith lord and not one of those uptoght super bossy Jedi's.


>Ultimately, the problem comes from the character arcs,
>focusing on boring politics, and inconsistency in the
>Force "rules".

What has been done to "The Force" over the years makes me cry..George ruined it in these last 3 movies..

BAH!

>Anakin's transition to the Dark Side seemed rather
>sudden. One day he mercilessly kills an evil Sith
>Lord and a few days later he's killing Jedi
>children...er, I'm sorry, younglings. What spawns the
>drastic change? His love for Padme. A love that due
>to wooden acting (more on this later), never really
>supports the change in alignment. Furthermore, they
>do a decent job establishing the relationship that
>Obi-Wan and Anakin have in the first scene. And even
>have a witty rapport (with crappy dialogue and wooden
>acting) that says these guys have a history together.
>The transition from that to the two of them fighting
>to the death seems forced to me. That said, Obi-Wan
>seems to express this confusion which I did kind of
>like.

I concur and can add nothing..

>There was a lot of talking in this movie. The
>confusing politics play a key role again in what's
>going on. And because Palpatine is pulling an FDR,
>he's getting the evil eye by the Jedi. It would have
>been better to establish better reasoning for the
>Jedi's suspicion of Palpatine.

The Jedi don't accross that "good" in this movie. They seem very rigid in their thinking and not as concerned about a "greater good" for the society.

>The Jedi confuse me a great deal actually. They can
>sense some things, but not everything (like a dozen
>blasters being aimed right at them). They can see
>into the future now? They should search their
>feelings, but not ever use them? They can use the
>Force to move heavy, floaty thingies, but not to brush
>off a handful of tiny droids that have hit their
>spaceship? I'm sure some Star Wars nerd has it all
>figured out, but I couldn't follow it.

*meh*

This is due to the messing around with what the force is..It seems to be just a convenient way for George to move the story along and has no logic to it what so ever..This use of the force is one of the big strikes against this movie.


>Finally, the part that I suppose I found the most
>interesting was all the little bits that "set up" the
>original trilogy. Some of it worked, most of it
>seemed crammed in there. I would like to have seen a
>bit more time spent on key points, especially if it
>would have meant less boring talking earlier in the
>movie. (I also think it's weird that they don't save
>the Leia revelation for "Return of the Jedi." I think
>it'd be better to establish that Luke has a twin, but
>not give any more information than that. Storywise,
>to those watching it for the first time in "order," it
>gives that reveal some punch.)

You are using to much energy to analyze some of this stuff man..

>Two huge non-story problems with this movie. The
>wooden acting and the insanely busy special effects.

The special effects seemed very distracting in all the city scenes. Cool seeing the Falcon land though..

>I will give Hayden Christiansen credit for not being
>as bad as he was in Episode II...but he was still
>pretty bad. I'd actually be curious to see him in a
>non-Lucas movie. I'm curious how much of it is him
>and how much of it is Lucas. The romance and
>chemistry between Anakin and Padme just wasn't there.
>Even greats like Samuel L. Jackson and Christopher Lee
>were less charismatic than mannequins.

All the acting was quite dull for the most part..except for the dude that played the Emperor..HE did a great job IMO.

>There were some great looking effects in this movie,
>but way too much. Space battles had too much going on
>and backgrounds were too complex. And, there were
>some effects that just didn't look good at all. The
>Greivous/Obi-Wan chase had some really bad stuff in it.

Yeah they focused much more on the SFX and not so much on the story. If they dialled down the FX and maybe revised the script a bit more..this could have been a better movie.

>The ship designs seemed better overall, but then
>Wookies have laser crossbows and don't use their
>alleged claws, so that kind of cancels each other out.

Wookies have claws?..Souphead is that true?
(soupy has read all the Star Wars novels..I differ to him and my youngest brother on all Star Wars nerdlike matters)

>At least 10 minutes could have been cut from this
>movie. It was edited to be way too long. There are
>too many shots of ships taking off and landing. It
>slowed down the flow of the story and wasn't necessary.

What also got me with all those take off and landing scenes is how quickly those ship would do that..From an animation point of view..I know a little about that stuff ;-) It was not so good..No anticipation or follow through or settling...

>And, I know this is an homage to the 1930s serials,
>but let me state this very clearly, I HATE wipes that
>are used as transitions. This had way too many wipes.

That part didn't bug me so much..

>I searched my feelings and am giving this a higher
>score than I thought I would, but I think it's fair.
>
>

4 out of 10



Good review and a fair rating..

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