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Date Posted: Mon, Jan 09 2006, 5:18:56 PST
Author: PD
Author Host/IP: user-12lclge.cable.mindspring.com / 69.86.86.14
Subject: Re: Walking Stick Form
In reply to: Buddy tripp 's message, "Re: Walking Stick Form" on Sun, Jan 08 2006, 19:49:42 PST

Buddy,

There is no question as to the origin of Wang Shujin's taiji. It was taught to him by Chen Panling - Wang acknowledged that, Chen's students acknowledged that.The fact that many of Wang Shujin's students today don't acknowledge that is a different issue. As for the short stick, I don't think we with any certainty know the origins of that form. For example,in a listing of the key components of the martial arts taught by Chen Panling written by one of Chen's top students, Lei Xiaotian (lei zhuman)in his book on Chen's xingyi, the short stick is not listed at all.

I would be interested in hearing about Luo Dexiu's take on Wang's taiji, though I would certainly not consider Luo's practice of CPL's taiji to be in any way representative of the style. Since he's a superb martial artist it would nonetheless be interesting to hear his opinion.

What I do wonder, and I'm sure others do too, is where YOUR obsession with the question of the origin of Wang's neijiaquan comes from. Perhaps you'd care to share that too? Above all, why don't we all promote some real research into these issues, instead of relying on hearsay and guesses. If we genuinely started looking into these things, I'm pretty sure we'd find something closer to the truth than what we have to day.That is if they are even worth looking into...

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