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Date Posted: 15:00:49 12/16/09 Wed
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's message, "JUDISM KILLS PALESTINIANS" on 12:02:53 06/10/04 Thu
For one,even the Quran says the land belongs to the Jews.
Sura5:19-22 references:
People of the Book!
"Bear in mind the words of Moses to his people.He said,"Remember,my people,the favour which G-d has bestowed upon you.He raised up prophets from among you,made you kings, and given to you that which He has given no other nation.Enter,my people,the holy land which G-d has assigned for you
Sura 10:93
We settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things.
Sura17:103
Then We said to the Israelites,"Dwell in this land.When the promise of the hearafter comes to be fulfilled,We shall assemble you all together."
#1 The root of Arab hostility is not Israel, but rather anti-Jewish feeling for hundreds of years, past & present "peace" efforts that don't recognize
this are doomed to failure.
#2 Mecca was probably founded by Jews, and Mohomed's hatred of Jews was partly based on financing his endevors by plundering Jewish wealth,just as Henry VIII & the Protestants plundered Catholic monastaries in
the1600s to fund English operations.
#3 "Palestine" never existed as a country, language or people
#4 There were really very few Arabs in "Palestine" before the 1890s(less than 600,000 in Israel and Jordan for several hundred years). Jews did not displace Arab farmers.
#5 Arabs settlers flooded in *after* the Jews came in a ratio sometimes approaching 10 Arabs to 1 Jew. The massive Arab settlers caused the British to say that Palestine was "full", and in a sense displaced potential Jewish refugees from Europe.
#6 The British were in violation of their mandate when they created Jordan, and the Mandate Commission, the U.S. and several others vigorously opposed this at the time. Four out of the seven overseers on the Mandate Commission were going to vote to reject the British "White Papers" but then WWII broke out.
#7 The British ignored Arab immigration and purposely assisted Arab to come into what would be Israel. They actually told the French to *stop* policing the Syrian-Lebanon border. The British foiled all efforts to enforce border control with Jordan.
#8 In spite of a vigorous British campaign to stop Jewish immigration into Palestine "because there was no room for more Jews", the British brought in thousands of Arab workers who settled in Palestine.
#9 The British carried out a campaign of Arab appeasment in violation of the Mandate, even firing on Jewish immigrant boats, before - during -and even after the holocaust.
#10 When war broke out in 1948, about 600,000 Arabs left Israel because they had only been there for a couple of years.
#11 The Arab states, especially the Mufti (Arafat's uncle) worked close with the Nazi's. The Mufti set up office in Berlin.
#12 The U.N. Changed their definition of a "refugee" for Palestinians to include anyone who had lived in Israel for *two years*
#13 After the war in 1948 about 600,000 Jewish refugees left Arab countries for Israel after being persecuted there.
And leaves the point that the Arabs, and especially the British (by dividing Palestine twice, and imposing strict quotas) were largely to blame for not providing an escape for Jews of the holocaust.
A collection of historical quotations relating to the Arab "refugees":
ON APRIL 23, 1948 Jamal Husseini, acting chairman of the Palestine Arab Higher Committee (AHC), told the UN Security Council: "The Arabs did not want to submit to a truce ... They preferred to abandon their homes,,belongings and everything they possessed."
ON SEPTEMBER 6, 1948, the Beirut Daily Telegraph quoted Emil Ghory,secretary of the AHC, as saying: "The fact that there are those refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously..."
ON JUNE 8, 1951, Habib Issa, secretary-general of the Arab
League, wrote in the New York Lebanese daily al-Hoda that in 1948,Azzam Pasha, then League secretary, had "assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade ... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property, and to stay
temporarily in neighbouring fraternal states."
ON APRIL 9, 1953, the Jordanian daily al-Urdun quoted a refugee,Yunes Ahmed Assad, formerly of Deir Yassin, as saying: "For the flight and fall of the other villages, it is our leaders who are responsible, because of the dissemination of rumours exaggerating Jewish crimes
and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... they instilled fear and terror into the hearts of the Arabs of Palestine until they fled, leaving their homes and property to the enemy."
THE JORDANIAN daily Falastin wrote on February 19, 1949: "The Arab states... encouraged the Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies."
ON OCTOBER 2, 1948, the London Economist reported, in an eyewitness account of the flight of Haifa's Arabs: "There is little doubt that the most potent of the factors [in the flight] were the announcements made over the air by the Arab Higher Executive urging all Arabs in Haifa to quit ... And it was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."
THE PRIME Minister of Syria in 1948, Khaled al-Azem, in his memoirs,published in 1973, listed what he thought were the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948: "... the fifth factor was the call by the Arab governments to the inhabitants of Palestine to evacuate it and leave for the bordering Arab countries ... We brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees by calling on them and pleading with them to
leave their land."
"FOLLOWING a visit to refugees in Gaza, a British diplomat
reported the following: 'But while they express no bitterness against the Jews...they speak with the utmost bitterness of the Egyptians and other Arab states: 'We know who our enemies are,' they will say, and they are referring to their Arab brothers who, they declare, persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes."
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British Foreign Office Document #371/75342/XC/A/4991
Evidence of Haj Amin al-Husseini Before the Royal Commission, January 12, 1937
(( Interview with the Mufti, ARAFATS UNCLE)) MUST READ!!
Quote from text:
SIR L. HAMMOND: His Eminence gave us a picture of the Arabs being evicted
from their land and villages being wiped out.What I want to know is, did
the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then
hand it over to the Jews?
MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.
SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land
would be acquired for public purposes?
MUFTI: No it wasn't.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?
MUFTI: No.
Evidence of Haj Amin al-Husseini Before the Royal Commission, January 12,
1937 (excerpt)
APPENDIX VIII from "Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters, Harper & Row
publishers
LORD PEEL: ... Just one question, then. You want completely to stop Jewish
immigration. What do you want to do with the 400,000 Jews here at present?
MUFTI: They will live as they always did live previously in Arab countries, with
complete freedom and liberty, as natives of the country. In fact Moslem
rule has always been known for its tolerance, and as a matter of fact Jews
used to come to Eastern countries under Arab rule to escape persecution in
Europe. According to history, Jews had a most quiet and peaceful residence
under Arab rule....
MUFTI: But I can say that the Jews, many thousands, are actually living in Iraq
and Syria under Arab rule and have the same rights and the same position
as the other inhabitants of the countries.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Would you give me the figures again for the land. I want to know
how much land was held by the Jews before the Occupation.
MUFTI: First of all I would like to say that one of the members of our Committee
will deal later with the land question, but nevertheless I will give you
the figures. At the time of the Occupation the Jews held about 100,000
dunarns.
SIR L. HAMMOND: What year?
MUFTI: At the date of the British Occupation.
SIR L. HAMMOND: And now they hold how much?
MUFTI: About 1,500,000 dunarns: 1,200,000 dunarns already registered in the name
of the Jewish holders, but there are 300,000 dunarns which are the subject
of written agreements, and which have not yet been registered in the Land
Registry. That does not, of course, include the land which was assigned,
about 100,000 dunarns.
SIR L. HAMMOND: What 100,000 dunams was assigned. Is that not included in, the
1,200,000 dunams? The point is this. He says that in 1920 at the time of
the Occupation, the Jews only held 100,000 dunarns, is that so? I asked the
figures from the Land Registry, how much land the Jews owned at the time of
the Occupation. Would he be surprised to hear that the figure is not
100,000 but 650,000 dunarns?
MUFTI: It may be that the difference was due to the fact that many lands were
bought by contract which were not registered.
SIR L. HAMMOND: There is a lot of difference between 100,000 and 650,000.
MUFTI: In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Who? An Arab?
MUFTI: Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth.
SIR L. HAMMOND: His Eminence gave us a picture of the Arabs being evicted from
their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the
Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then
hand it over to the Jews?
MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.
SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be
acquired for public purposes?
MUFTI: No, it wasn't.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?
MUFTI: No.
SIR L. HAMMOND: But these lands amounting to some 700,000 dunams were actually
sold?
MUFTI: Yes, they were sold, but the country was placed in such conditions as
would facilitate such purchases.
SIR I HAMMOND: I don't quite understand what you mean by that. They were sold
Who iold them?
MUFTI: Land owners.
SIR I HAMMOND: Arabs?
MUFTI: In most cases they were Arabs.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Was any compulsion put on them to sell? If so, by whom?
MUFTI: As in other countries, there are people who by force of circumstances,
economic forces, sell their land.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Is that all he said?
MUFTI: They were not prevented from selling the land, and mostly the country was
in such economic condition as facilitated the sale.If the Government had
the interest of these poor people at heart they should have prevented
sales and these people would not have been evicted from their land. A
large part of these lands belong to absentee landlords who sold the land
over the heads of their tenants, who were forcibly evicted. The majority
of these landlords were absentees who sold their land over the heads of
their tenants. Not Palestinians but Lebanese.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Is His Eminence in a position to give the Commission a list of
the people, the Arabs who have sold lands, apart from those absentee
landlords?
MUFTI: I am sure the Department of Lands can supply such a list.
SIR L. HAMMOND: I didn't ask him to tell me where I could get the information
from. I asked was he in a position to give it to me.
MUFTI: It is possible for me to supply such a list.
SIR L. HAMMOND: I ask him now this: does he think that as compared with the
standard of life under the Turkish rule the position of the fellahin in
the villages has improved or deteriorated?
MUFTI: Generally speaking I think their situation has got worse.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Is taxation heavier or lighter?
MUFTI: Taxation was much heavier then, but now there are additional burdens.
SIR L. HAMMOND: I am asking him if it is now, the present day, as we are sitting
together here, is it a fact that the fellahin has a much lighter tax than he had under the Turkish rule? Or is he taxed more heavily?
MUFTI: The present taxation is lighter, but the Arabs nevertheless have now
other taxation, for instance, customs. On this very point a member of the
Arab Committee will deal.
LORD PEEL: On the burden of taxation?
MUFTI: Yes.
LORD PEEL: And the condition of the fellahin as regards, for example, education.
Are there more schools or fewer schools now?
MUFTI: They may have more schools, comparatively, but at the same time there has
been an increase in their numbers.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Is there any conscription for the army now?
MUFTI: No.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Would the people like to have that back?
MUFTI: Yes. Provided we have our own Government.
SIR L. HAMMOND: Then am I to take it from his evidence that he thinks the Arab
portion of the population would be more happy if they reverted
to a Turkish rule than under the present Mandatory rule?
MUFTI: That is a fact.
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