- Message Boards Back Up! -- Anonymous, 11:41:32 05/02/05 Mon [1]
Hi all, PoliticsPA has re-linked to the message boards but is using a different server than this VOY server. That is good, because this one sucked. Check out the link on www.politicspa.com or go directly to it at:
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- E-T County Executive Endorsements -- Anonymous, 14:09:12 04/23/05 Sat [2]
The Express endorsed Stoffa and Nyce. Why are they endorsing in closed primaries?
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- Joe Long -- Anonymous, 05:46:51 04/11/05 Mon [2]
Here's what PoliticsPA.com said in naming him one of the worst county chairs:
Joe Long (D-Northampton County): May be the least politically sophisticated county chair in Pennsylvania. From encouraging primaries against incumbent Democrats to fixating on Allentown Morning Call online polls the day before an election (rather than asking for volunteers), Joe Long is one county chair whose days should be numbered. Long is this year's Cliff Wilson. Says one Dem insider: "Joe Long has become a curse!"
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- Hello??? -- Anonymous, 17:14:09 04/20/05 Wed [3]
Even though there is not a direct link to this anymore on PoliticsPA, one can still post here. Hopefully, people had this site bookmarked. I would hate to think we could go through the primaries without some good conversations on this board.
Anyone out there???!!!
Its Wednesday, April 20th
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- Browne Wins Easily; Mann's Career in Jeopardy -- Anonymous, 19:40:21 04/05/05 Tue [3]
Pat Browne won this seat very easily. This does not bold well for Jennifer Mann. With her negative campaign style, it will take many years, if not decades, for voters to forget about her sleaziness.
Maybe Jennifer Mann can propose to Brian O'Neill (remember his campaign nastiness in the congressional primary), but unfornutately Jennifer, he is already taken.
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- Candidate's for 131st State House Seat -- Anonymous, 07:01:23 04/06/05 Wed [2]
What are the potential candidate's for the 131st House Seat? Since Browne won and he is a Republican, I would think that the Republican Party will fight to keep this seat Republican, since they will not want to lose this seat. On the other hand, the Democrats probably feel that they can win this seat. Who are the Democrat's top picks for the seat?
By the way, look for the Republicans to win the State Senate seat out in the Pittsburgh area after the Democrat switched his party to a Republican (Representative: Michael Diven). This will result in a +1 pickup for the Republicans in the State Senate.
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- the simple truth -- Anonymous, 06:22:23 04/06/05 Wed [2]
this was Mann's race to lose and she lost it. When the dust settles, it will be clear that the DUI ads hurt her.
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- Final Predictions - Browne vs. Mann -- Anonymous, 11:52:20 04/04/05 Mon [6]
Final predictions.
Browne - 52%
Mann - 48%
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- Browne wins -- Anonymous, 17:03:36 04/05/05 Tue [6]
Horrible Mann campaign, her career is done! Spend alot of good dem money and her staff sucked! Bye Bye Jenn Hello Senator Browne!!!!
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- Browne Wins! -- Anonymous, 16:56:48 04/05/05 Tue [9]
79% reporting
Browne up by 7.
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- What's the score??? -- Anonymous, 15:57:27 04/05/05 Tue [2]
Browne or Mann - what is it?
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- Just call her Sen. Mann -- Anonymous, 15:40:23 03/29/05 Tue [18]
I'd also like to say that Browne's polls are push polls. How do I know? I got a call from your polling firm! I know it's random sample and all, but when your opposition gets a taste of the polling you're doing, you're just dumb.
Mann's polls were not push polls. If Browne's push polls are showing him within or just outside the margin of errors, remove the carefully framed questions and ask, "Will you vote for Pat Browne or Jennifer Mann on April 5th?" The answer, without the rest of the push poll will be Mann.
Jennifer Mann wins this election 55-45%. Browne fails to mobilize his voters in Northampton County, Lowhill Twp, North Whitehall Twp, Weisenberg Twp and doesn't meet expectations in Allentown, especially his district.
I also want to point out that 65% of Pat's house district is not even in the senate district (yeah, those lawn signs in Salisbury Twp are doing a lot of good), meaning that his base of support is much smaller than Jenn's, which is entirely in the 16th district.
Jennifer Mann gives the Democrats something they haven't had in a long time: a candidate with the reputation for hard-nosed politics. Dent, Toomey, and even Browne have that reputation, but they never faced a candidate that matched them step for step in aggression.
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- The OTHER GUY? It's MINDER---check the ballot!! -- Anonymous, 12:43:37 04/05/05 Tue [1]
The OTHER GUY?? Don't make me laugh. How disrespectful. HOw about we just refer to them as.... THE "D", THE "R" and THE "I".
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- Mann V. Browne -- Anonymous, 11:14:54 04/05/05 Tue [2]
As a Republican who went out and voted for Brownwe, relunctantly, based on what I saw and heard today as unscientific as it may be I am predicting a Mann victory.
My Guesstimation:
13% voter turnout
Mann 48%
Browne 46&
The other guy 6%
I saw a lot of R's I know today who said they were voting for the I because of Browne's DUI's. In the end the protest votes going to the Indy candidate may cost Pat the election.
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- Cheers to the Independent !!!! -- Anonymous, 11:51:14 04/05/05 Tue [1]
I give Kudos to Minder for contuining his quest. So many of us say how we would like things changed seems Minder is a MAN ON A MISSION.
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- Good Luck Today to Pat Browne and Jenn Mann -- Anonymous, 06:18:47 04/05/05 Tue [4]
They are both quality candidates and I wish them both well.
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- Browne's Third DUI -- Anonymous, 11:56:44 04/04/05 Mon [4]
So I just heard from a very reliable source that Pat Browne does not have a mere two DUIs, as he claims.
He has THREE.
In the 1980s, while in college, Browne got into an auto accident on the Jersey Shoer. He was druink. A passenger in Browne's car was injured in the accident and sued him.
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- Christian Values -- Anonymous, 06:20:34 03/31/05 Thu [25]
I was appalled to learn that Mr. Dent voted against saving poor Terry Schiavo. I think those of us that are conservative should send Mr. Dent a message. The way to do this is not challenge Mr. Dent in a Primary in 2006, but to run a well-funded thrid party conservative in the General Election. This will send the pro-death Mr. Dent all the message he needs.
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- campaigns still going? -- Anonymous, 17:45:04 04/02/05 Sat [4]
Anyone here know if Browne or Mann are still campaigning? With the Pope's death, i'd really like to know if either of them decided to keep going...
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- Put a fork in Jennifer Mann! -- Anonymous, 08:29:56 03/29/05 Tue [10]
She is done!
The latest polls have her way behind Browne. Several have Browne so far ahead he covers the margin of error and then some!
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- How to reply to a message on this board -- Anonymous, 10:27:37 03/19/05 Sat [17]
Hello -
there are some people who don't know how to post a reply. all they do is hit the "post a reply to this message" button, but don't actually type anything. Duh!
click on post a reply, then scroll down to where there is a text box and actually type something!
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- Pat Browne the man to succeed Charlie Dent -- Anonymous, 11:26:42 03/24/05 Thu [11]
Congratulations to the 16th Senate District -- Pat Browne is the man with the plan!
The vibe out on the streets is that Pat Browne is riding a wave of popularity. Jennifer Mann's campaign efforts are as stale as a two day old donut.
Mann knows she has nothing left, so she drags out old, old news on Browne's DUI. If that aint the white flag, I don't know what is.
Jennifer Mann's current campaign material is the reason why people hate politics and they don't want to vote.
Pat Browne -- Taxpayer Hero!
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- dent conservative? -- Anonymous, 13:17:27 03/30/05 Wed [3]
No kidding he isn't. We all knew that
and voted him in anyway b/c he is popular.
So goes politics.......
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- Heard Ed Pawlowski got his start... -- Anonymous, 15:18:21 03/30/05 Wed [14]
... playing Uncle Fester on the Munsters tv show. How come its not in his bio?
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- Bill White trashes Jenn -- Anonymous, 19:07:33 03/31/05 Thu [11]
Bill White's column tomorrow will confirm that Mann's
DUI ad against Browne backfired big time. White has been
a Mann admirer. But he is wrting a column that confirms
that the DUI ad hurt Mann more than Browne. Be prepared
for all of the Mann hacks to blame someone else for the
"command decision" to run the ad. Her "advisors" ran an
incredibly bad campaign. She's down by 10, and not even
Rendell wants to lose votes standing next to her.
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- Another Mann song parody: Christina Aguilera -- Anonymous, 09:43:25 03/28/05 Mon [15]
Ah, dirrty (dirrty), Filthy (filthy), Nasty, you nasty (yeah), Too dirrty to clean my act up, If you ain't dirrty, You ain't here to party (woo!)
Ladies (move), Gentlemen (move), Somebody ring the alarm
A fire on election day, Ring the alarm (and I'm throwin' mud), Ring the alarm (and I'm throwin' mud), Ring the alarm (and I'm throwin' mud)
Oh, I'm overdue, Give my big head some room, I'm coming through, Paid my dues
In the mood, Me and the girls gonna shake the room
Sen. Mellow's spinning (show your hands), Let's get dirrty (that's my jam)
I need the unions, uh, to get me off, Sweat until my constituents run off
It's explosive, reporters are writing (oh), Still mudslinging, six in the morning
Door knocking, debates we’re hashing, No question, time for some action, Temperature's up (can you feel it), About to erupt
Gonna get my girls, Get your boys, Gonna make some noise
Wanna' get elected, Gonna' get a little disrespected
Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna' get dirrty, It's about time that I came to set the record straight
Lies dripping out my body, Browne’s getting just a little naughty
I Wanna get dirrty, It's about time for my arrival
Ah, heat is up, So ladies, fellas, Drop your cups
Body's hot, Front to back, Now move to elect my ass, I like that
Tight-lipped buggers (Millan for sure), Spill a little somethin' (to the media), I need that, uh, to get me elected, Sweat until I get respected
Let's get open, cause a commotion (ooh oh),
We're still going, eight in the morning, There's no stopping, we keep ad dropping (oh), Mud’s rocking, everyone's talking
Give all you've got (give it to me), Just hit the polls
Gonna get my girls, Get your boys, Gonna make some noise
Rowdy, Gonna get a little unruly, Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time that I came to start the party,
Ooh lies dripping out my body, Racing and getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty (oh, oh), It's about time for my arrival
Here it comes, it's the one You've been waiting on
Get up, get it up, Yup, that's what's up, I can’t just buy your vote, Election night I’m gonna’ mope!
Uh oh, here we go (here we go)
You can tell when the negative ads, Start to drop
That's when we take it, To the parking lot
And I bet you somebody's gonna, Call the cops
Uh oh's, here we go's (here we go), Ohh ooh ohh, yeah yeah...
Wanna get rowdy (rowdy, yeah), Gonna get a little unruly (ruly), Get it fired up in a hurry (hurry)
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time that I came to start the party (party), Lies dripping out my body (body)
Racing and getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time for my arrival
Rowdy, Gonna get a little unruly, Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time that I came to start the party
Ooh lies dripping out my body, Racing and getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time for my arrival
Rowdy, Dance and getting a little unruly
Get it fired up in a hurry
Let's get dirrty, It's about time that I came to start the party, Lies dripping out my body, Racing and getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty, It's about time for my arrival
Uh, what
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- Final Totals and a Wrap -- Anonymous, 07:30:14 04/03/05 Sun [1]
Browne 53
Mann 47
Minder -- oh boy
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- Come back Dr. Pascuzzo we need you! -- Anonymous, 11:14:23 03/23/05 Wed [17]
Charlie Dent betrayed us. He has to go. E-mail Dr. Pascuzzo and convince him to come back to PA. We need him to challenge and defeat congressman Dent. He's the only one who can.
Pascuzzo@ptd.net
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- Jenn Mann = Nasty Girl -- Anonymous, 07:45:56 03/22/05 Tue [12]
A parody of Janet Jackson's "Nasty":
Gimme a tax increase! Sittin' in the ghost vote show, thinkin' nasty thoughts, huh
Better be a drinker or you turn me off, huh
That's right, a-let me tell it
Nasty, Nasty Jen, mean’s now yo’ thing, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty, Nasty Jen, can’t get a baseball team, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
I don't like no Bill DeWeese, I don't like to legislate, huh
Ooh ooh yeah
The only nasty thing I like is the nasty race, huh
Will this one do? Uh huh, I know
Nasty, Nasty Jen, mean’s now yo’ thing, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty, Nasty Jen, can’t get a baseball team, huh
Oh you nasty Jen, Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty, Nasty Jen, give me your nasty campaign ads, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty, Nasty Jen, let me see your nasty body move, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
I could learn to like this....Listen up.
I'm not a republican (no)
I just want some respect (that's right)
So close the door if you want me to respond (ooh ooh yeah)
'Cause Rendell is my middle name...My last name is Gambling
No my first name ain't baby, It's Jennifer - Miss Mann if you're nasty
Nasty, Nasty Jen, mean’s now yo’ thing, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty, Nasty Jen, can’t get a baseball team, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Nasty Jen, mean’s now yo’ thing
Oh you nasty Jen
Don't be mean to me, uh
Nasty!
Now mean’s yo’ thing, huh
Oh you nasty Jen
Uh!
I love this part
Hey!
Who's that thinkin' nasty thoughts?
Nasty Jen!
Who's that in that nasty taxpayer paid SUV?
Nasty Jen!
Who's that eating that nasty taxpayer paid food?
Nasty Jen!
Who's jamming to the DSCC nasty groove?
Nasty Jen!
Ladies (Nasty Jen)
Don't mean a thing
Oh you nasty Jen
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- What are they hiding in Harrisburg? -- Anonymous, 15:30:47 03/28/05 Mon [2]
(I read this Op-Ed piece in The Allentown Morning-Call and The Pottstown Mercury. It should be required reading for everybody in Pennsylvania.)
Corrupt.
It’s not a word to be used lightly. But sometimes it’s the only word that fits, and this is one of those times.
Pennsylvania is the only state in the nation without a law requiring lobbyists to disclose what they’re spending and doing to influence our legislators and our governor. The only state.
So it’s no coincidence, in our opinion, that Pennsylvania authorized more slot machines than any state but Nevada while our citizens were not protected by a lobbyist disclosure law. It is no coincidence that our legislators and our governor cooked a secret deal and enacted it within 36 hours when there was no way for anyone — ever — to know how much money changed hands and what promises were made.
While we can only guess how much money special interests spent, our guess can be an educated one.
Thanks to Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Jubelirer, without whose leadership the public would know nothing at all, the Senate has a rule (not a law) to get some information from lobbyists.
Under Senate reporting alone, lobbyists spent $64 million in just the first half of last year to influence legislation. Recently, Jubelirer told the Pennsylvania Newspaper Association he expects the total for 2004 to be well over $100 million. The Senate has only 50 members. Imagine how much special interests spent in the 203-member House and the governor’s office.
Corrupt? Ask yourself this: If a system of unbridled influence peddling by lobbyists is not corrupt, why have all 49 other states bridled it? Even the federal government has a law.
But the heart of corruption in Pennsylvania is not that legislators and the governor are hiding how they cut deals with special interests, like professional gambling. The heart of this corruption is that it spits on democracy. It spits in the face of the people who have to live with and pay for the laws that special interests purchase under cover of secrecy.
Whether you’re for gambling or against it, the way Pennsylvania authorized 61,000 slot machines was an insult to democracy. Despite a constitution that plainly says bills should be considered on three different days in the House and three different days in the Senate, our gambling law was enacted in just 36 hours.
You and I had no opportunity to see what was proposed — and what we opposed. When we learned that lawmakers could own 1 percent of gambling interests, when we learned that our communities could be colonized by huge gambling parlors over the objection of local residents and officials, we raised Cain. Last fall, facing unhappy voters at election time, the General Assembly passed changes — only to have them vetoed by Gov. Rendell.
All of that could have been avoided if our public officials would stop playing keep-away from the people.
This month, we may hear from the third branch of our government — the State Supreme Court. Opponents of public corruption and opponents of gambling have filed suit to have the gambling law overturned because its passage violated the Constitution.
This month we may learn whether our Supreme Court justices have any greater sense of democracy than the legislative and executive branches. We will see whether our Supreme Court considers the Constitution’s three-day rule a mere how-to manual that can be ignored when the stakes are high, or whether it gives the people real due-process rights so that we can understand and influence proposed laws before it’s too late.
Pennsylvania needs a government — all three branches — that strengthens our democracy, not one that dismantles it. We need the best disclosure law in the country, not the worst. We need a law that:
• Requires lobbyists to register, to disclose their interests, and to report their spending.
• Prohibits lobbyists from giving anything of value, except information, to public officials.
• Requires the immediate, complete and public disclosure of information given to public officials on a dedicated "public integrity" Web site.
• Imposes harsh penalties against violators.
There is no benefit to the people when lobbyists give public officials expensive dinners, golf outings, tickets to sporting events, free financial advice and a thousand other things that we will never know about — but will live with and pay for.
Only our legislators and governor can enact such a law, and we should make sure they do. In a democracy, "We the People" really do choose our government. The good news is that we can do it. When the politicians know that voters want integrity in public service, they will give the voters integrity in public service. They can’t help themselves; they’re politicians.
It’s hard when a word like "corrupt" attaches not just to institutions but to individuals. Sooner or later, it becomes impossible to separate the two. You can’t have a corrupt institution that’s populated by innocent individuals.
The preservation of democracy is job No. 1 for any public official.
If our legislators fail to enact a state-of-the-art lobbyist disclosure law now, it is only reasonable for voters to conclude that legislators who don’t fight to end influence peddling are the ones who benefit from it.
This article was written by Timothy Potts, a former staff member in the Pennsylvania legislature. It was endorsed by Matthew Brouillette of the Commonwealth Foundation; Kathleen Daugherty of the Lutheran Advocacy Ministry in Pennsylvania; Lou Hammann, a retired professor of religion, Gettysburg College; Barry Kauffman of Common Cause/PA; and the Rev. Sandra Strauss, Pennsylvania Council of Churches.
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- What's with Boscola trashing Mann? -- Anonymous, 05:12:13 03/26/05 Sat [13]
Sounded like a lot of personal projection in her comments about Mann's ads focused on Browne's DUIs. Did this hit too close to home? Does she think the Republicans are going to go after her on the same issue? Or is she just nuts?
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- If Browne is elected -- Anonymous, 07:21:34 03/29/05 Tue [6]
then both senators representing the Lehigh Valley will be drunks. Do we really want that?
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